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The Local and EU elections: A guide to using your vote

In recent weeks more than a dozen readers have either commented or emailed in asking for a guide on how the voter should use their vote during the upcoming local and European elections.

Ireland uses an electoral system called “proportional representation; single transferable vote”. The first part of this name describes the objective of the system: That the seats in elected bodies like the Dáil, County Councils, and the European Parliament should be allocated roughly proportionally: In other words, if a party wins exactly 20% of the vote it should win almost exactly 20% of the seats, and so on.

The second part of the name describes the method used to achieve this aim: The single transferable vote. This is the ballot that you will be filling in for the local and European elections in early June.

The name is fairly self explanatory: You have one vote, but that vote may be transferred according to your preferences.

On the ballot paper, you will be asked to rank the candidates from top to bottom in order of your preference. If there are 15 candidates, then a fully filled out ballot paper will rank the candidates from one to fifteen. There is no obligation, however, to vote the whole way down. From years of observing counts, I can tell you that by far the most common vote is one where the voter has selected three preferences and left all the other boxes blank. Others will only vote for one candidate, and some will vote the whole way down. Once you have clearly indicated a single first preference, your vote is valid and will be counted.

However, only voting for one candidate, while perfectly legal, is also objectively a poor decision which makes your own voice count for less. You can vote for as many candidates as you like, and here are a few reasons why you should do so:

  • Your number one vote only really matters on the first count

How your vote is counted is as follows: On the first count, the first preference votes are counted. On every subsequent count, the focus is on counting lower preferences.

How this works is thus: The objective in a PRSTV election for each candidate is to reach the quota – the total number of votes required to take a seat. This is worked out by the following formula: Total number of valid votes/(total number of seats +1), plus one.

Or, in simple terms: In a constituency where there are four seats, and fifty thousand valid votes cast, the quota would be 10,001. Total number of votes (50k) divided by total number of seats plus one (5) with one vote added on.

If a candidate gets more than that number of votes, he or she is deemed elected. The vast majority of candidates who get elected in Ireland do not get elected on the first count. Indeed, that is how the system is designed.

In all subsequent counts after the first count, it is lower preference votes that matter. This is because on each count, at least one candidate is eliminated. This is either because they have reached the quota and been “deemed elected”, or more usually because they are the lowest ranking candidate, and have been eliminated from contention. When the lowest ranked candidates are eliminated, their votes (and only their votes) are counted, with their votes then being re-assigned to the next highest preference recorded on the ballots for a candidate who remains in contention.

  • Every preference on your ballot paper is potentially as strong as a number one vote

Let us imagine that you cast your ballot for a candidate who was eliminated on the first count. Your second preference vote is then counted, and your vote goes into the pile of votes belonging to that candidate. At that stage, there is no difference between your vote, which was a second preference, and the vote of somebody else who cast a first preference. They count exactly the same.

In fact,  this can be true of any preference on your ballot paper: Imagine your first preference candidate was eliminated very late on in the count, and that your second, third, fourth, and fifth preference candidates had all been eliminated first. At that stage, your sixth preference, if that candidate is still in the race, will count just as much as your first preference. If a candidate is elected on the tenth count, it’s a virtual guarantee that that candidate is getting sixth and ninth preference votes in their pile, each one counting as much as a number one. In one election count, in Cavan-Monaghan in 2011, this correspondent saw a eighth preference vote help elect Fine Gael’s Heather Humphreys over Sinn Fein’s Kathryn Reilly. Deputy Humphreys is now in the cabinet. Eighth preferences matter.

When counting your vote, it will always be assigned to the highest ranked candidate on your ballot paper who is still in the election. And it will always count the exact same as if that ranking – whether it be number 4 or number 11 – was a number one vote.

  • Your ranking of candidates really matters

Some people will say, on places like facebook, that a voter should only vote for candidates they want to see elected, because otherwise they could see their vote ending up in the pile of somebody they ranked eighth or ninth and really didn’t want to see elected at all. This is true, but it misses the point entirely.

If you fill out your ballot paper in full, the only candidate who can never receive your vote is the candidate you rank last. Somebody will always be ahead of them. This is an important power that the voter has that too few voters understand: If your vote is helping to elect somebody, it is only doing so because you ranked somebody else below them, or left other boxes blank.

Let us imagine here a voter who really does not want to see a particular party winning seats. In that scenario, the best way to use your vote is to fill the ballot out in full and leave that party’s candidates to the very end. This ensures that your vote will always be available to somebody else, ahead of that party’s candidates.

This might not matter if you genuinely have no preference between, say, Fianna Fail and Sinn Fein. But many, many, election counts in many many seats will come down in the end to a choice between those two parties for the last seat – or between Fine Gael and Labour, or Aontú and the Soc Dems. The question you have to ask as a voter is whether you want a say in that choice.

If you do want a say in it, the best thing to do is to fill your ballot out in full. Then, your vote will always be available to the highest ranked remaining candidate – and if the final seat comes down to, for argument’s sake, the Fianna Fáiler you ranked 9th and the Independent you ranked 7th, then your vote will go to the Independent and it will count just as much as your number one did.

  • People you do not agree with will be elected, understand that when voting

This is an essential thing to understand about our electoral system, and it follows directly on from the last point. Because we use a proportional system, it is a matter of guarantee for every voter that candidates they do not agree with will be elected. In a five seat constituency, for example, four of the five candidates elected will by definition be candidates you did not vote number one for. It is entirely possible that none of them will be somebody you voted number one for.

If you are only voting 1, or only voting 1,2,3, in a five-seat constituency, then at the very minimum you are forfeiting your say over who gets the remaining two or four seats in the constituency. This is why voting as far down your ballot paper as you can makes sense. At the VERY minimum, you should be voting for as many candidates as there are seats to be filled.

Never use your number vote “tactically”

Our electoral system rewards honesty on behalf of the voter, and you should never over-complicate your vote.

What I mean by this is that you should never not vote for somebody because you think they have no chance of being elected, or because you think they are definitely going to be elected without your vote.

Let’s say you really like a no-hoper who people say will be lucky to get a dozen votes: It is not a “waste” of a vote to vote number one for them. If “people” are right, and they do only get a dozen votes, then your vote will transfer to the next candidate on your ballot ranking anyway, and count just as much as a number one.

This is particularly true for small parties: In Ireland, political funding is tied to the percentage of the vote that a party receives, not the number of candidates it gets elected. You receive state funding if you achieve 2% of the first preference vote nationwide in a General Election.

Therefore, your vote is about more than just electing candidates. Voting number one for a small party, even if that party wins no seats, could be the difference between that party surviving and that party going bankrupt.

To make our system work for you, as a voter, the best thing to do is to vote your conscience, rank as many preferences down the ballot paper as you can stomach, and let the chips fall where they may.

If readers have any more questions about the voting system, or how to use it, then feel free to drop an email into news@gript.ie, and we’ll endeavour to answer them before polling day.

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Laura Crowley
21 days ago

It’s a well explained article & in the past I would have always filled out the preference sheet all the way down to the end of the ballot as I always understood the importance of the transfer votes.

However, no more I completely DISAGREE with urging people to use the transfer vote in the current political climate that we now find ourselves in. We have a government who have been caught red handed outright lying to the electorate, who are trying to fast track & ram the most serious legislation through the Dail. The opposition are just as bad as we know (if not worse & even more extremist far left ).

In short we have a political wide ranging spectrum that best case scenario are simply not playing fair or in the worse case scenario (which I believe is the scenario) are actually behaving in a criminal fashion & should be arrested.

Therefore we absolutely must NOT give our transfer votes to any candidate or party that are not calling out the antics of the current government & standing up for Irish people.

We cannot “play fair “ with people who have proved over & over how anti democratic & anti Irish they truly are .

Last edited 21 days ago by Laura Crowley
remembering Easter 1916
21 days ago

perfect just info I needed I can come back to this page in June,, hopefully we can get a good selection of independents in each electoral region so preference vote can carry on to a independent, this is how sinn fein got caught out on last election , they won the majority of votes , did not have enuff candidates in each electoral region and 2nd 3rd and so on ended up back with 2 main parties if I understand this right , more info needs to get out to rural areas to vote out this present government destroying our country side , blueshirts and finna fail farmers who have been hoodwinked by this government need to vote wisely, this is also your grandkids future 👍💚💚💚

remembering Easter 1916
21 days ago

just like housing crisis and non Irish getting free housing on housing list before our own,o Brien s magners vulture funds buying up swayes of land all over the country will destroy the small farmers, 5 more years of this government will destroy rural Ireland, come on let’s start voting wisely,will Mary Lou McDonald come to clonmel and support local voters that supported sinn fein for years and there fight for their housing space going to non Irish, this is what voting is all about 👍💚💚💚

Daniel BUCKLEY
21 days ago

The only thing to remember is to keep ALL the legacy Parties off the ballot paper to avoid transfers’
That means to exclude our Tormentors , FF/FG/SF/G/Lab/ PBP/SD.from the Ballot paper
The transfer vote is the biggest weakness and source of confusion in the PR system.
Use as many Independnets and Irish Nationalists as possible.’The regime are relying on the asylum seekers to ‘fix the vote’, with a Brazilian running in Dublin.
Time for every Irish man/woman to Vote or live under a Tyranny.
http://www.checktheregister.ie

ReaIIrish
20 days ago
Reply to  Daniel BUCKLEY

That’s some real cute hoorism there with FF putting Ciao Benicio up for election. To be fair, that’s FF to a tee. And with a very high concentration of Brazilians in Dublin he has a very strong chance of getting elected.

It’s completely wrong that someone from the other side of the world with no Irish Heritage can vote or stand for election in our country.

I recently commented here about the future emerging threats of ‘Voting Blocks’ and how they will steer the direction of our country. I was mostly referring to the Muslim Vote as they are the ones who push forward and organise in this way to take control of towns and city districts/boroughs and councils, and to exert their power over the National Government as they are now doing in Australia.

So now, potentially, the Brazilian Voting Block can start to exert influence over how we run our affairs. No doubt they’ll be liberal when it comes to Immigration, regularising/amnestying those Brazilians who’s status is not ‘secure’, faster/easier citizenship and family reunification etc.

All Legal and above board, of course.

Mary Reynolds
19 days ago
Reply to  ReaIIrish

I have yet to see a Brazilian who is not lazy. And the slow way they walk. Living in slum accomodation, bringing the standards down. After COVID I passed through a square in which I lived in a flat 73-74. Three houses near the corner seem to be taken over by Brazilians. Loads of them were out on the steps dozing in the sun and looking like sleeping slugs. Windows and doors of the houses open, some windows had raggy curtains and the whole place had a ghetto look. It was so well kept when I lived in that corner long ago. Such a deterioration. Seems they are bringing the standards of Brazilian slums in with them. They were all so tired and sleepy in the daytime, I felt they were on drugs. We have no need of Brazilians here. A massive country that will overpower us in numbers.Get them out.

Cal
21 days ago

Informative and important article. I will be sharing the link to this page for sure. Hoping Niall McConnell will get elected in Donegal. Interesting to see how many more deliveroo types will throw their hat in the ring

David Sheridan
21 days ago

Very well explained John.

A Call for Honesty
21 days ago

We need a guide through the garbage the mainstream media are feeding us about the election. Take the following from Newstalk:
Friends of the Earth has found 25% of people in Ireland are ‘extremely’ worried about climate change.
They also found one in five people named the climate as one of the top three priority issues that will influence their vote in the coming elections.

If a large number of voters were asked their five top concerns from a list including the economy, housing, immigrants, medical services, fuel and energy prices, wages, cost of food, climate change, I doubt even 1% will list climate among these. Perhaps Grip needs a reader survey and a few of their journalist go randomly ask people on the street and at the shops what their biggest concerns are? This will show how out of touch with reality the mainstream media are.

Stephen
21 days ago

Get out and vote and mobile. Make sure anyone who appears apathetic is told his and his family’s future depends on radical change. Having watched Kenneth Clarks ” Civilisation” documentary from the late 60’s last night on BBC it is scary to listen to him describe the signs that Civilisation is at risk. We survived 200 yrs of the dark ages by the skin of our teeth. Well worth a watch.

James Gough
21 days ago
Reply to  Stephen

Irish monks save europe. Well worth a watch. Its on youtube.

Declan Cooney
21 days ago

Excellent explanation, Concise and precise.
Mile buiochas.

Michael O'Reilly
21 days ago

Be sure to repost this on the the run up to ali the up and coming elections.

Last edited 21 days ago by Michael O'Reilly
Rory Stephens
21 days ago

Thanks, John, for a very clear explanation of a sometimes very complicated system (just think of some of those marathon recounts!). However, along with the poster of another comment earlier, I can’t see what benefit can be gained in this toxic political climate, in voting all the way down the list. With a virtual uni-party in place, my vote in recent elections has been reserved for trustworthy smaller parties and independents. I always find a few names on the candidate list of probably self-funding independents that I’ve never heard of… it might be worth giving these lower preference votes, because even if their policies are off-the-wall, they can’t be any worse than what Fine Green Failure and their nominal opposition are imposing on us!

Stephen O’Rourke
21 days ago
Reply to  Rory Stephens

Well said, Rory. It’s time to give a chance to us proper 100% independents!

http://www.stephen4europe.eu

Stephen O’Rourke
21 days ago

This is a very well written article. So as to make it even more accessible, I have simplified it down further (read till the end to see a link where you can watch a video I made that guides you through checking the register!):
Understanding Your Vote:
– In Ireland, we use a voting system where the proportion of votes a party gets matches the proportion of seats they receive. Simply put, every vote contributes directly to the election results.
How to Vote:
– You’ll see a list of candidates on your ballot paper. Put a ‘1’ next to your favorite candidate, a ‘2’ next to your second choice, and so on. You can rank as many or as few candidates as you like, but marking more preferences increases the power of your vote.
Why Your Vote Matters:
– Your first choice counts first. If your top candidate doesn’t need your vote to win, or can’t win, your vote will transfer to your next choice. This continues until all seats are filled. Therefore, each preference you mark can help decide who gets elected.
Vote Wisely:
– Fill out your ballot as much as you can. Voting for more candidates does not waste your vote; it ensures that your voice is heard throughout the counting process, influencing who ultimately gets elected.
Participate!!:
– Every vote counts, and not just for top candidates. Voting for smaller parties or unlikely candidates also influences funding and representation.
On my website I guide you through checking the register, here’s the link:
https://www.stephen4europe.eu/check-the-register-
I’m Stephen O’Rourke, a 100% independent who’s running in the Euro elections to represent Dublin. I’m counting on your support.

Dora
21 days ago

Clear and helpful

Stephen O’Rourke
21 days ago
Reply to  Dora

Happy to hear.

Deb
21 days ago

Thanks John, I thought I had a good understanding of our system, but you’ve made some really good points, particularly the one about the importance of your first preference vote to small parties in relation to funding even if not elected- not something I was aware of!

Ross Nolan
21 days ago

This all very pragmatic I suppose but for many of us there are moral objections to giving even last prefences to some candidates and/or parties. I could never in good conscience give a vote (whether first preference or down the list) to a pro-abortion party meaning I’m often stuck with only one candidate I can give a vote to at all.

James Gough
21 days ago
Reply to  Ross Nolan

Me neither. I hate most of them. If you tortured me i would not give the scum currently in power a tenth preference.

Hamtramck
21 days ago

Great article John – suggestion could you turn that into a pithy one liner or bullet point for the lazy among us 🤪

Stephen O’Rourke
21 days ago
Reply to  Hamtramck
N17
21 days ago

Great article, Always wondered about this topic and what was the best thing to do when filling out the ballot paper. I have heard so many different versions from the media over the years on how to best use your vote. I think I’m going to stick with and trust John here. The other “journalists” have shown time and again over the last few years that they cannot be taken at their word and “they know best!”

Last edited 21 days ago by N17
Neil O Leary
21 days ago

I don’t think the PR system is serving the country well anymore. Particularly when you consider the power a minority party such as the Green Party has had over the state. It is truly shocking that a party that only received 7% of the popular vote can be permitted to destroy the fabric of Irish society. I will be advising everyone I know to refuse to give any preference votes to Green Party candidates in the local elections in June!

Border collie.
21 days ago

Thank
You John please repost closer to election time,excellent.

Buddha
21 days ago

It would be helpful if somebody could organise a chart of all of the candidates and parties who have arisen as an alternative to the political establishment.
Put it up online.

Organise it on a map, by constituencies, showing people their options.
Some of the new candidates will need this kind of help to get the message out there about who they are, policies, etc.
Very useful for voters particularly in areas where there a few good new candidates to choose from, in order to keep ffgsf out by giving the others top preferences.

Would be helpful if it could be made into a leaflet,
even printed, photocopied and distributed by volunteers locally would do. I’m sure there are many in the various protest groups around the country who’d help with this

Frank McGlynn
21 days ago

One important point about transfers. If the candidate you vote No 1 is eliminated your No2 effectively becomes your new No1. But if the candidate you vote for is elected your No 2 may not feature in the transfers. For example if the quota is 12,000 and your No 1 candidate gets 14,000, leaving a 2,000 surplus, only 2,000 of those ballot papers are redistributed to the No 2 candidates leaving 12,000 papers which are never transferred. The 2,000 papers which are redistributed are usually out of the last box opened so the transfers are quite random in that regard.
So if you want to get ‘best value’ for your vote then use your high preferences for those who are likely to be eliminated early!!

Jake
3 days ago
Reply to  Frank McGlynn

You make a very important point and one which negates some of what was written above…
As I understand it, the transfers are supposed to be done on a percentage basis which means that, in your example, all 14,000 would be re-counted and divided by 7 to determine the correct allocation of transferred papers. However, in practice, this doesn’t happen and the procedure is as you outlined, to the best of my knowledge.
In fact, as far as I am aware, the only time it was done was during the brief experiment with electronic voting in 1997 when Nora Owen lost her seat in one of the guinea pig constituencies. Arguably, the only good argument in favour of this kind of voting system is the fact that the transfers can be done efficaciously as opposed to the current random sampling you wrote about above…

Last edited 3 days ago by Jake
Frank McGlynn
21 days ago

Good point about voting all the way down even if it means ranking those you dislike on the basis of who you dislike most. There are quite a few candidates on the Dublin euro ballot paper that I dislike and while I would never give CIARAN Cuffe or Aodhain O’Riordan a high preference I would give Cuffe a Higher preference than O’Riordan.

Brian
20 days ago

Oh, that clears that up then…. not

MICHAEL DINEEN
18 days ago

Great article John. This should be on the curriculum in our education system, no doubt about that. The reason it is not is because the larger parties fear the consequences of people fully understanding PR/STV.
If they had their way, they would scrap PR/STV as FF shamefully tried to do in in Third Amendment of the Constitution Bill in 1958.
It is frightening to reflect upon how close they came to doing that (rejected by 51.8 to 48.2).
Michael

MICHAEL DINEEN
18 days ago
Reply to  MICHAEL DINEEN

And even more shamefully, they had another attempt in 1968 with The Fourth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 1968 which was soundly defeated by 60.8 to 39.2.
Plus ca change plus c’est la meme chose
Michael

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