Cllr Seamus Walsh (left) and Cllr Noel Thomas, whose home was one of four raided on Saturday morning

FF Councillors condemn Garda raids: “This is to send a message”

Councillor Noel Thomas was in his bed, he says, when the Gardaí came to his house at 6am, “banging on the doors and shining lights in the windows”. In the house were his wife and children. Gardaí entered the house, and proceeded to “search every room, and every drawer in every room. They turned the place upside down”.

The Garda Operation, launched on Saturday morning, was, the force says, part of an effort to gather evidence that might aid their investigation into the alleged arson attack on Ross Lake Hotel on December 16th last. The hotel had been set to become a home for up to 70 male international protection applicants, or asylum seekers, before the fire forced those plans to be abandoned for now.

“It was like being burgled or held up in your own home”, Councillor Thomas told this reporter. “That’s the only way I can describe it. I would consider myself a good judge of people and I could tell most of these Gardaí didn’t want to be there, going into the kids bedrooms and going through the drawers”.

Councillor Thomas is particularly outraged because, he says, he does not understand why there could possibly be any need to come to his home to seize his devices. “On not one, but two occasions in recent weeks, I arranged to meet Gardaí voluntarily so they could download anything they wanted from my phone. Both appointments were cancelled by the Guards. I gave them a full and voluntary statement confirming that I know nothing about the fire”. He had, he says, nothing to do with the blaze whatsoever.

Councillor Thomas says that, in his opinion, the purpose of the raid on his home was “To send a political message” in relation to his speaking out in support of the protests against the proposed accommodation centre which preceded the fire on December 16th. He fears, he says, that such raids may become more commonplace as the Gardaí seek to discourage political protest around immigration. “If this is what they can do to me, as a sitting councillor”, he said, “then God help anyone else if this hate speech bill is ever passed and they have the power to come into people’s homes and seize devices based on next to nothing”.

At roughly the same time as Councillor Thomas’s home was being raided on Saturday morning, an identical scene was playing out at three other homes in the locality. Four homes in total were hit at dawn. 

This reporter understands that in at least one other case, a person who had voluntarily surrendered their phone to the Gardaí in the days before the raid then had the new phone that they had purchased over Christmas to replace the surrendered phone seized. In another case, children’s devices were temporarily seized.

Speaking to Gript Media yesterday, another Fianna Fáil Councillor involved in supporting the protests, Seamus Walsh, whose home was not raided, told this publication that he regarded the raids as “intimidatory” and openly speculated that the initiative for them may have originated at “Leinster House, Mount Street (referring to Fianna Fáil headquarters) and whoever else”.

Councillor Walsh – who alongside Councillor Thomas, faces disciplinary action from Fianna Fáil for supporting the protests, told Gript Media that he had been clear with the Gardaí from day one that he did not know who was responsible for the arson attack on the proposed accommodation centre.

 He also said that, like Councillor Thomas, he did not condone in any way the burning of the hotel – which he has publicly condemned – but said that the fire reflected “the extent to which Fianna Fáil in Dublin is out of touch with the feelings of local people on the ground here in Connemara”. He said that he felt that the unknown person or persons who may have set the fire would have been acting out of a sense, however misguided, that their actions were necessary to protect their community.

Councillor Walsh told this reporter that when he told the Irish Independent over the weekend that on foot of the weekend raids “he would never co-operate with the Gardaí again”, he was speaking “in anger” out of a sense of deep frustration at the dawn raids on Saturday morning, but wanted to make clear that his personal interaction with the Gardai was perfectly cordial and that he appreciated that local Gardai in particular had been placed in a difficult position.

When this reporter contacted An Garda Síochána to seek comment on the statements made by the two councillors, the Garda Press office issued a statement saying that the force does not comment on third party remarks, or “comment on interactions with any third parties carried out as part of an ongoing criminal investigation”. The Gardaí referred back to their statement on the raids issued on Saturday, which confirmed that “searches were conducted at four properties in the Roscahill area of Oughterard, Co. Galway. The searches were conducted by members attached to Galway Divisional Crime unit supported by the National Bureau of Crime Investigation. The searches conducted were focused on gathering evidence in relation to the arson of Ross Lake House Hotel on the 16th of December 2023.”

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In a story like this, some caution is warranted: We only have the side of the story told by the two councillors and others targeted in the raids, and we are not likely to get the Garda side of the story since any enquiry will, as ever, be met with that old flat-batted forward defensive shot: An Garda Síochána does not comment on third party remarks.

Nevertheless those events as described have the potential to raise, I think, pretty serious questions for An Garda Síochána: If, as is alleged, the purpose of the searches was purely to acquire electronic devices in the possession of those targeted, then a dawn raid approach seems on its face entirely excessive, especially since one of those people had already voluntarily surrendered their device.

The thinking behind dawn raids by police forces the world over is well established: Police forces do them – usually with careful planning in advance – with the explicit aim of taking the targets of the raids by surprise and making sure that they have no time to flee, or to destroy or conceal any evidence. It is highly unlikely, we can safely conclude, that a sitting councillor would flee or evade the Gardaí. Indeed, to the contrary: Gript understands that Councillor Thomas had previously co-operated with the Gardaí and voluntarily been interviewed.

We may therefore surmise that the Gardaí, to justify such extreme action, must have a reasonable belief that those targeted possess evidence in relation to the crime (the arson attack) that they were investigating. An operation like this, given the political sensitivity involved, would also require signing off by somebody pretty senior.

Obviously and self-evidently, in a Republic, nobody – not even an elected official – is above the law. The Gardaí are obligated to try to unveil, and bring to justice, those responsible for an arson attack. That said, the Gardaí themselves in a case like this have not earned the benefit of the doubt. And in this case, the doubts in any reasonable mind should be grave.

First, implied in any dawn raid – certainly in the public mind – is a presumption that the Gardaí believe that the targets of those raids would not simply co-operate with the Gardaí if approached to do so.

But in at least two of the cases, based on information provided to this reporter, it seems at face value that this is not the case.

Second, when one of the targets of those raids is an elected councillor, in an election year, then the raids are essentially a siren blast from the state’s police force telling the public that they suspect the councillor of, at minimum, an unwillingness to co-operate in the bringing of criminals to justice. The raids are an explicitly political intervention, in terms of their impact, by the state’s security arm, which have the net effect of casting doubt on the personal integrity of at least one sitting councillor who has not been charged with or implicated in any crime at all – notwithstanding any blather about innocent until proven guilty.

Third, the breadth of the devices taken in the raids smacks more than a little of a fishing expedition: Do the Gardaí really have reason to believe that information about the perpetrators of an arson incident is stored on a child’s electronic device? Or was the seizure of such devices just the over-exuberant execution of a warrant?

Certainly, we can conclude quite reasonably that other elected councillors around the country will be watching these scenes, and being quite incentivised to make sure that their homes are not the target of such raids. One might call that, in effect if not yet unambiguously in intent, pour encourager les autres.

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Nor are the suspicions of political motivation entirely meritless: We know, for a fact, that Fianna Fáil has sought to discipline the two councillors who were involved in supporting the protests, and Gript Media understands that an eight week suspension for both is likely to end up being the only possible negotiated outcome that keeps them both in the party. A previous suggestion mooted within Fianna Fáil was that both would then have to re-apply for membership. However, at least one of the two councillors made it quite clear that they would not re-apply if that was a requirement.

The sight of a sitting politician having his door rapped at 6am in the morning will, self-evidently, send a message to other sitting politicians, not to mention ordinary members of the public, and nobody should be naive enough to believe that such messages are not sent quite consciously by the Gardaí from time to time. Councillor Walsh told this reporter yesterday that he firmly believes the raids this weekend had a political motive. Looking at the scale of them, the facts surrounding them, and the timing, one might forgive him for that suspicion, regardless of how accurate it finally turns out to be.

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John Quinlan
4 months ago

The guards should hang their heads in shame.A sad day for this country when the guards are acting like this.

Eamonn Dowling
4 months ago

The darkness descends.

Eamonn Dowling
4 months ago

Laverenti Beria always used to send his secret police to people’s homes during the hours of darkness. It added an extra and sinister dimension of fear and intimidation to the raids the purpose of which was to terrorise the rest of the population.

Michael O'Reilly
4 months ago

Dawn raids, water cannon’s, tasers, double strength pepper spray, make no mistake this is all about creating fear and intimation. These dawn raids are the government’s way of telling the average joe soap if we can do this to an elected official just think what we can do to you.

Last edited 4 months ago by Michael O'Reilly
John B
4 months ago

I think they will win by a landslide in next election if they run as independent. It is clear destroying the building guarantees the desired result but people need to get smarter. Don’t protest just burn it if desired.Like why give them faces to point the finger at.

Border collie.
4 months ago

This raid in the dark of the night will leave a terrifying mark on children and adults alike,it will awaken a deep mistrust of minister Martin who was informed of this pending attack on innocent people and sanctioned it.It will also expose all other ff councillors who will take the 30000 plus each year and serve ff not those who elected them in trust..my support goes out to those that suffered in this nazi style assault ..

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Rupert Pollock
4 months ago

Very sinister development, the shape if things to come. And they say its the far right we have to worry about.
If the hate speech law kicks in, they won’t need a warrant just a made up excuse, or vexatious accusations of a bad neighbour or the easily offended.

Anne Donnellan
4 months ago
Reply to  Rupert Pollock

Spanish Inquisition and Stalinist Russia

Charles Murphy
4 months ago

Could someone please clarify? I thought that under our Constitution the gardai could not enter a private home without a warrant or unless a crime was in progress at that time.

Emmet Molony
4 months ago

Don’t forget that the garda, in their own words “do not comment”. That is the only response to any interaction with the Garda, whether cautioned or not.

Daniel BUCKLEY
4 months ago

The dawn raid on the 2 FF Councillors homes is one of physical and psychological motive to disorient and intimidate others who go against the Regimes narrative. There can be no more illusions as to the criminality and arrogance of the Regime as they blatantly abuse their power.It is also a sign of their desperation as they lose control and credibility.
The steel claw has emerged from the velvet glove.
To a Totalitarian Fascist Regime insane narratives and behaviour serve as both loyalty test and humiliation ritual.
The Gombeens can be bought and bribed ,Patriots will stand fast and fight for their families future in our Homeland.
The People of Ireland are winning this battle and will purge the Gombeens that have collaborated in the attempt to destroy our beloved Nation.
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Jon S
4 months ago
Reply to  Daniel BUCKLEY

Here here

Mary Reynolds
4 months ago

Are the big boot not always intimidatory on an early morning search anyway, so no special instructions needed on this occasion. A 6am assault of banging doors, shining lights through windows before ransacking the house, on a power trip, as they counted their overtime money on their fingers. They could have searched what they were looking for, in a gentle way. Think of the big uniformed physiques and feet of the brutes, as they rampaged through the house as a herd, banging and going. That’s their standard. In return for this ‘service’, McEntee does not value them and is making them beg for the dole before they get their pension. Smaller money will put a smaller boot on them and humble pie will lessen their macho aggression.

Daniel BUCKLEY
4 months ago
Reply to  Mary Reynolds

Who can now deny that the Gardai have been politicised and are the brute force arm of the Regime.
We now live in a de facto Fascist State and it is every Citizens duty to fight for our Republic and protect our women and children from these tyrannical and despotic criminals.

Anne Donnellan
4 months ago

night of the long knives

David Sheridan
4 months ago

Full blown fascism. Ronald Reagan said that if fascism ever came to America it would be in the form of liberalism……

James Gough
4 months ago

Some members of an Garda Siocana are just bullies in uniform but very very many are ordinary descent men and women who joined to serve their community. Those descent guards should ask themselves are they happy with this intimidating of ordinary families. If not then get out of the Guards and keep your self respect. That’s worth more to you than any money paid for this type of bully boy carry-on. You don’t have to live with Drew Harris but you do have to live with your own conscience.

James Mcguinness
4 months ago

There should be raids and audits on every existing ff politician in my view, it would certainly explain alot of whats going on in this country at present.

David Greally
4 months ago

Government definitely chipping away at the democracy block for sure. Communism her we come.

Pat.Carr.
4 months ago

Varadkar is following the Biden playbook! Weaponizing the Gardaí is a paraody on how the Department of Justice is now a one-sided instrument in the USA, as it uses the Hoover-corrupt FBI leadership to hound political opponents. This is done by excessive house-raids and intimidating speech/behaviour and it’s based on the premise ‘Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime’. So they grab all the files and electronic equipment and search anything they can prosecute. This is a standard fascist play-book behaviour. If there are any bad apples in the prosecutors office, then the planting of evidence to create a crime becomes possible, but unlikely in Ireland. This creates more fear. We already saw protestors using masks during their protests! Another Biden method then comes into operation “Guilty until proven innocent” The old British tactics of striking fear of the state into the people!
The nearist thing Varadkar has to the FBI/CIA is Harris, who was brought in from outside for a specific reason and attitude. Harris would have analysed the attitudes/readiness of specific guards, for their fitness and dedication in certain roles/special squads. These guys are promised bonuses and a big career. They need to be held to account!
Varadkar has already dug out an imaginary rabbit-hole that has not existed before, and this is called the “Far-Right”. The last organized “far-rightest” in Ireland was Eoin O’Duffy’s Fine Gael Blue-shirts, who fought with Franco, the Nazis and Mussolini in the Spanish Civil war. So this is unsafe ground for him! By singling out a sector of the activists / protestors / vocal-population, who can also be a majority of the population, (like in our US parody, Trump and the MAGA movement), he can now justify abusing the constitutional rights of the protestors, the press and opposing TDs, by claiming that an existential-attack on the state is taking place (as is happening in the Biden Playbook). If there is any violence displayed during the protests, this becomes his Jan. 6th false-flag gift. He will claim that Ireland has no choice, as the EU law is dominant in law and effectively forces us to flood the country with immigrants and he must act to defend the state against these ‘Extremists’. He has already said that the Dublin Agreement does not apply, although the whole country knows that it does!
He will continue to use the ‘Trusted News Initiative” marrionette RTE and the puppet-owned newspapers to play down the size of the influx or ignore the problem. He is depending on the EU ‘Industrial Censureship Complex’ to quickly remove the last bastions of free-speech by threatening Twitter (X), with unheard of fines, for allowing people to express an opinion (Even though Musk has already curtailed hate-speech in a big way and now has a very balanced cliente, that is expanding rapidly). Also local uncensured outlets like GRIPT, will come under pressure as the mouth-piece of the far-right! I would also point out that the Irish can also get uncensured news at GETTR, Rumble.com and Truth Social… while it is still possible! A VPN is also useful, which they will also try to ban. It reminds me of Ceausescu’s Romania, where only 1 radio station was allowed!
The saving factor in all this is that the Gardaí are not the corrupt FBI and they are just carrying out their normal job. They are very localised in nature and they are also very strongly affected by the influx of Migrants, with the growing crime, the untenable siutation between the migrants & locals, and of course, the ongoing protests, including from their own family, friends and community.
Vadarkar will hold off on an election as soon as possible, to avoid being absolutely destroyed by the growing dissent. Many people who now support the influx, will quickly change their views, when they are affected (e.g. Ballsbridge thought they were safe!). This strategy will more than likely lead to a no-confidence vote, where there will be huge pressure on FF to end the collision. The ‘Biden-esque’ mindlessness of Martin is on clear view to be seen! The Fall of this government will actually be the best thing for Ireland that has happened since 1939 and a massive boost for democracy and the Republic!
There are very many observers, ex-pats etc. all around the World, watching exactly what is taking place! Varadkar’s ‘far-right’ are seen as the bad guys!

Last edited 4 months ago by Pat.Carr.
John Farrelly
4 months ago

Before the cops can enter a house they must have a very precise search warrant, if nothing is found they can then be counter charged with trespassing. If they arrest someone and nothing is amiss then they can be charged with false arrest. They cannot take possessions of a device except under very strict circumstances and if nothing is amiss they can be charged with larceny. All this abuse is predicated on Irish people going along with it, resistance will make it impossible. I bet those so called politicians will just go along with it!

BorisPastaBuck
4 months ago

Gript readers may wish to check out a recent video, on YTube, posted by a Ivor Cummins – a chap with engineering/science qualifications and who has been “vlogging” mainly about nutrition and related matters over the years. He ventured into questioning the science behind the Lockdowns – his recent video raised issues about whether he had been “targeted by the taxman” in consequence of his public comments (one or 2 of his past videos are almost a “tour de force” in rigorously dismantling the “Narrative”). Tax can be complicated – his recent post is quite detailed and technical but I can’t imagine he’d have made a video about his tax affairs unless he felt there was “definitely something in it”, concerning his suspicions. Certainly it would appear to be the type of matter the Ombudsman ought to investigate. I appreciate this is quite a separate matter from what’s dealt with in the above article but we need to be alive to “patterns…..”.

Daniel O'Connell
4 months ago

Sounds like something out of Venezuela.

T Garvin
4 months ago

I worked with Seamus, years ago, he was a dedicated decent hardworking man committed to serving the people and I was always amazed at his energy and commitment and now we see he’s still in that same role. May God bless him and strengthen him and all who stand with him in there days of wickedness and deception..
TG

Joc
4 months ago

Drew Harris seems to have a lot to answer for the way Garda are currently behaving.
I heard a interview on bbc ulster a few years back when Sinead mcgrotty explained how the psni treated her over complaints she made about a constable Ronan SHARKEY, who had been sexually harassing her for a few years, apparently Harris who was in a senior position at the time didn’t treat her too well and seemed to side with his friend SHARKEY.

Tommy Lanigan
4 months ago

Wondering if a certain garda with a GAA background was involved? Tried to make a complaint to Garda Ombudsman about him for a serious abuse of his power. Ombudsman admitted I met all the requirements for lodging a valid complaint but refused to investigate due to an arbitrary 1 year limitation on complaints.

  • The reason I hadn’t complained within the year was because his action resulted in a 2 year court case and I was told by Gardai I could not make a complaint until after.

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