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22% of population of Ireland born overseas, new figures show  

Newly published EU statistics on immigration show that the proportion of the population of the Irish state who were born overseas reached 22% in 2023.  

Ireland has the fourth largest non-national population of all 27 member states, headed only by Luxembourg, Malta and Cyprus.  

 

The figures published by Eurostat on Wednesday show that in 2023 of the 5,271,395 people living in the Irish state, that 1,150,090 had been born in a “foreign country.”  That amounts to 21.82%.  

 

This represents a further increase of 132,653 on the 1,017,437 who were officially recorded in the 2022 Census as having been born outside of the country. 

On the day of the Census, a total of 1,017,437 people living in the state were recorded as having been born overseas.   That represented 19.76% of a total population of 5,149,139 in the country at the time. 

 

The proportion of the population born overseas had increased substantially over the course of one year, and since then tens of thousands more people have arrived in the state either as persons seeking asylum or as persons with work permits and many of their dependents.  

The trend can be seen starkly when we look at the proportion of the growth in the population of the state that is made up of immigrants. 

According to the official EU statistics, the population of the state grew from 5,060,084 on January 1, 2022 to 5,271,395 on January 1, 2023.  That figure corresponds to the estimate of the Central Statistics Office (CSO) here in April 2023. 

The population of the state had increased by 211,311 in that period.  What is interesting, not to say even startling, about that is the proportion of the increase that was solely made up by inward migration.  

According to the EU statistics, as set out in the table below, 157,537 people migrated to Ireland from overseas between 2022 and 2023.  Which means that of a population growth of 211,311 that 75% of that growth was accounted for by immigration.  If that trend continues, and it looks set to increase rather than otherwise, then we are on course to have another 2 million persons who were born overseas living here around 2050. 

The percentage  of the population increase made up of immigrants corresponds closely to the statistics on the issuing of Personal Public Service Numbers (PPS) which as we have reported shows that around 23% are issued to people born in Ireland.  

 

One of the usual responses to this picture of the radically changed and changing demographics of the Irish state is “Oh, most of the people coming back are Irish people.”  Well, not only are most of the people coming to Ireland and recorded as part of the migration statistics not Irish, but the number of Irish citizens who are leaving is greater than the number of Irish citizens who are returning. 

This fact is confirmed by the steadily upward curve of the proportion of the population who are born overseas.

 

The table above also shows that the Irish state had one of the highest per capita intakes of immigrants in 2022. The per capita intake stood at 30 per 1,000 for Ireland is almost three times the EU average and among the very highest of all member states.

If all of these trends continue, and they will, then the Irish state is on course to have a non-national population of a third within the next decade. 

If the current rate of population growth continues beyond that, and that percentage  made up by immigrants continues to account for 75% of that growth, we could have a population of 10 million by 2050 of which close to half would have been born overseas. 

I was reminded, apropos of the mentality that believes this is perfectly natural and welcome, of an article published more than three years ago by the Irish Independent. It quoted James Hegarty of the CSO who claimed that “an additional 4 million migrants would be needed” before 2051 to pay the old age pension.

Is there any other serious state on the planet that regards this type of thinking on the part of administrators and politicians and others to be acceptable – or even reasonable?  To make matters worse, this is happening while we’re seeing an exodus of tens of thousands of young, educated and even employed Irish persons – and an attack on the character of anyone who dares question this insanity.  

Ponder that over your post Lent “gesture egg” or gesture pint.

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Seamus Molloy
1 month ago

Shocking figures, we joined the EU and have freedom of movement which is fair enough. At what point did the Irish people agree to free movement of the whole world into our country?

James Gough
1 month ago
Reply to  Seamus Molloy

We never did agree for the world to come here. The cnuts in Leinster House agreed it with the world economic forum and the UN. We were never asked or even told about it. The media made sure not top cover it, The guards and all organs of the state are deployed to assist it. Immigration officers at the airports who were trying to apply the law were removed. This is no accident. Those cnuts done this on purpose now an explosion of violence is coming. Resist the theft of your Country by scum.

eah
1 month ago
Reply to  Seamus Molloy

>Shocking figures
Absolutely — not just shocking, but dire — some parts of Ireland, e.g. your larger cities, have probably already been changed beyond recognition.
It would be interesting to see a historical comparison, e.g. ten years ago, what % of those living in Ireland were foreign-born?
They will soon be able to predict when ethnic Irish will be a minority in Ireland.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

When Bertie Ahern was taoiseach, it hit ten percent.
But if you go back to ’96, it was less than 1%.
Fastest change of any state
And it’s accelerating – this change is happening faster than at any other time

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Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

(duplicate post, deleted)

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Cal
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

Come to Letterkenny, Co Donegal sometime. Ballycastle, Killala, and of course – theft capital – Ballaghderreen
Depressing. Not just bigger cities. Worse, the rural areas are being littered entirely by fakeugees. Dawn of planet of the apes comes to mind

Mary Reynolds
1 month ago
Reply to  Cal

I looked at Niall McConnell’s video of St. Patrick’s Day parade in Letterkenny. Depressing. The Irish seem to have abandoned it, few floats. What we had was a splurge of blacks and others out walking on the street, giving little hops now and again to pretend they were dancing. They all should have been on the footpaths as spectators. They destroyed it. Some Indian woman there with a group. Any kind of dance should have been up on a lorry on wheels to give it speed, the way it always was. They destroyed the beautiful parade. Donegal is a beautiful county, very friendly, now destroyed. I hope Niall gets elected and there is an IFP candidate too. It would be great to have two in the council. Very hopeful. I fear some counties have none. We have no right wing party and we must build up. We may be able to remove a lot, remove their citizenship and get them out. Passports were given out to loads like sweets. Please lobby politicians to oppose the migrant pact. We could at least lessen the organised surge if we could put an end to that. Too many apologists among us for immigration. Great that Varadkar capsized. There’s a freedom in that, a pressure has lifted.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Mary Reynolds

Hi Mary, there’s a link in the comment below (re- the migrant pact Opt-Out) in case you know anyone interested or know anyone who might want to share it online

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Seamus Molloy

“Ireland currently has no European Union obligation to take in refugees as it has an opt-in or opt-out clause on individual proposals in the areas of freedom, security and justice through the EU Treaty of Lisbon. When there is an EU legislative proposal in these areas, Ireland has three months to decide whether to opt-in or not. If it doesn’t opt-in, discussions go ahead, and any adopted legislation doesn’t apply in Ireland.” – https://ireland.representation.ec.europa.eu/strategy-and-priorities/key-eu-policies-ireland/eu-migration-policy-and-ireland_en

Get on to your reps – Stop the Migrant Pact.

Send one positive email to independents and Sinn Féin as they have spoke out against the agreement but tell them they’re not doing enough.

Send another to Ffgg and soc.dems and tell them you intend to play your part in wiping them out of political existence in all forthcoming elections over this.

This is extremely important – please take the time out for this and share it where you can

Godflesh
1 month ago

Cut our gold plated welfare system and the numbers will half in no time.

Ar26
1 month ago
Reply to  Godflesh

You actually are correct. If the government was to reduce numerous welfare benefits then the figure of 22% would become 11% in a matter of years.

But would the native Irish accept reductions to welfare benefits also ??

How many people would vote for the political party that says they are going to reduce the dole by 25%, or reduce housing benefit by 15%, or reduce disability benefit by 10% ??

They wouldn’t get elected imo

Anne Donnellan
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Reduce benefits for ILLEGALS and non EU

Ar26
1 month ago
Reply to  Anne Donnellan

Maybe but would it not be easier to just reduce benefits across the board ?

Laura Crowley
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Those that have been contributing into the system for large periods of time but gave just fallen on hard times should get much more & newbies much much less.

SHANE
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

I reckon if you just give gun licences to every white irish person,cut their benefits and give one day a yesr for a ‘purge’ we would see a reduction.
Like many”Helen McEntee” is on my list………..All just pretend okay

Ar26
1 month ago
Reply to  SHANE

You’d give a gun license to EVERY white Irish person? That means Helen Mcintee would be allowed a gun 🔫
Very irresponsible idea to give guns to people like Mcintee.

Laura Crowley
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

That’s easily solved AR26, all the department of social protection need to do is base social welfare entitlements based on number of years worked previously in Ireland i.e. those who have worked in the country for 20 years or more should get a max of x amount , then welfare rates should be applied on a sliding scale from there down to a minuscule amount .

Irish people who have contributed to the system for years would actually be rewarded while newcomers to the country would get a minuscule payment.

Irish teenagers & those in their early twenties on welfare would get lower rates but hey this cohort should be working full time , there are plenty of jobs around , they might be less likely to turn their noses up at jobs that immigrants are taking up like hotel , fast food , cleaning work etc

Ar26
1 month ago
Reply to  Laura Crowley

if an 18 year-old Irish person cannot find work then they’d be left with next to nothing on the dole under your plan. There may be plenty of jobs around now but that won’t always be the .case. So how many young people will vote for a political party promising to slash unemployment benefits ??

This is not simple. It’s complex. Answers to these kinds of problems are not straightforward and simple. For example, if you slash benefits too fast then businesses across Ireland will suffer from lower revenues.

My main point is that Irish people will not vote for a political party that promises to slash welfare spending. I just don’t see it happening.

So loads of people who would like to see less immigration and maybe even a proportion of recent arrivals leaving to another European country will not be prepared to sacrifice to make that happen.

Laura Crowley
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Irish people would absolutely vote for a fairer social welfare system that rewards those who have contributed for longer & gives less to those who have not contributed at all.

By the way I’m not talking about giving less to those who genuinely can’t work like people on invalidity pensions , disability allowance , those in receipt of carers allowance & single parents with young dependent children. I’ve always believed that we should give more to these cohorts & it’s shocking that those who genuinely can’t work & are in receipt of invalidity or disability allowance get the same social welfare rates as somebody who has never worked by choice & is essentially a scrounger . I absolutely believe that Irish voters would support this kind of policy.

Business would not suffer as you claim. There would not be a reduction in the amount of money floating around to spend on goods & services , the budget overall would be the same , it would just be distributed differently among people, thus with no impact to the macroeconomy of the country . It’s not complex at all really , it’s actually very simple .

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Bill Whelan
1 month ago
Reply to  Laura Crowley

I couldn’t agree with your comments more Laura.
How can anyone in government look at this current welfare system & consider it fair or equitable let alone sustainable? Never ending payments to increasing numbers of people who have contributed little or nothing to our economy & many who never will.
Myself & I believe many others who can see with their own eyes the absolute absurdity of this madness would indeed vote for the welfare system you mentioned.
What we have in place at the moment is nothing more than an open door to abuse & economic migrancy from every corner of the world to drain our country’s resources.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Should be no social wefare for non-citizens. No schooling either.

‘Asylum’ scrapped immediately. Apply retrospectively – strip the bogus scammers of residency, citizenship through ‘naturalisation, etc.

Refugees only on temporary basis.

Non renewable fixed-term visas (no ‘naturalisation’ except for spouses of Irish) for temporary workers – indians, brazilians, etc – countries whose citizens attempt to outstay visas in large numbers denied visas entirely,
and e.u. migration capped proportionately to Irish population.

When ‘freedom of movement’ was introduced, it was accepted that the smaller e.c. was economically stable and you’d never get huge numbers as happened.

But the biggest problem is non-eu migration.

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James Gough
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

The Irish get welfare benefits because they paid in to the system. I have contributed since 1971 and taken nothing out in that time. Check out the social welfare rules. There are few entitlements. There are benefits that are dependent on your having contributed. Foreign freeloaders contributed nothing and therefore are entitled to nothing. The state is not making a mistake in paying these freeloading grifters billions. They are doing it on purpose.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  James Gough

That 3 grand per month the beggars in mayo were getting that was only just copped on to by the local councillor – 2 thirds of it ends up in the property owners pocket via rent aids.
A small irish landlord ? Bad enough. Landlord dole – the taxpayer pays the mortgage on his second home.
A multi-property landlord, member of or connected to ffg ? Worse. A lot worse.
A vulture firm or other variety of the new overseas corporate investors ?
Worst of all.
They are connected to or an actual part of the international financial sysyems that are concurrently trying to reshape sovereign states.
These fuckers control the major political parties.
Directly and via the EU
.
They exert considerable control of the property market here.
They dictate planning – if the development is large, they won’t allow objections and the process is fast-tracked.
They dictate migration policy
They want people in their investment properties.
They also get landlord dole – to the tune of billions – return on their investments for overseas millionaire shareholders

And the demographic changes they dictate are doubtlessly not just to line their pockets, but to undo the sovereign nation state as it has always been understood.

Mícheál Martin – “sovereignty is an outdated notion”
Scum

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ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

Excellent comment. Probably the best comment I’ve read on Gript.

Great insight and description of how it’s all working. Including how they dictate planning and effectively control it all. The rug could be pulled from under them if the planning act was abolished for self-built family homes for native Irish (not rentals),. There may need to be some principles/guidelines to ensure it’s not abused but it would change the playing field entirely.

While the beggars you mentioned won’t be working, others that are housed on the tax-payers dime are often working illegally cash in hand, for the same FG/FF business owner types in hospitality, building jobs etc.

I had a FG party member blather onto me a few years ago about social justice blahblahbla. Hit him with the ‘landlord dole’ comment and that shut him up

Frank F
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

Absolutely – spot on, “sovereignty is an outdated notion” & not one picked that scumbag up on that one liner – Christ where’s the Irish men & women in an Irish parliament – that disgusting statement was a red-rag for me.
Men died for that sovereignty so that he got the privilege to enjoy it and by fk,he enjoyed it – lower than vermin.

Patrick duffy
1 month ago
Reply to  James Gough

What about the irish born wasters that have relied on state welfare benefits and rent allowance etc etc etc since they took their first breath!? Should we reduce their payments to near zero?because then they might take up some of the jobs that most migrants do here like working in spar or for cleaning companies. Can’t see it happening though..they are too busy out on the streets protesting at the big bad scary foreigners coming in here and stealing their jobs!….
I mean..welfare.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Patrick duffy

You’re Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown I take it ?

Does Daddy know you’re still playing socialist ?
Perhaps he needs to sit you down and explain things to you, because the good people of Donnybrook, Killiney and Dalkey may very well manage to keep the asylum centres out of their neighbourhood, but it’s not as big as the playground of wealthy urban Parisians & they won’t be very happy being islandised there under siege.

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ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

Easily bussed into those nice areas too for excursions. They can wander around and enjoy the scenery and get to meet the well heeled locals.

If the powers that be can buss them, so can we. Not difficult at all to organise. Have your ‘Welcome Refugees’ sign ready, Patrick.

Shane
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

If it was reduced for non nationals only and those non nationals who refuse to get a job certain groups of people would disappear overnight

eah
1 month ago
Reply to  Godflesh

Cutting welfare in Ireland may help with the less desirable migrants from other EU countries — but then you may run afoul of EU rules on that, so you must be prepared to tell the EU to eff off (which would be very satisfying to many, I’m sure).
But a huge problem now in Ireland is asylum — Ireland is a signatory of the 1951 refugee treaty, and legally bound to not only give due consideration to applications for asylum, but also to provide for applicants and those who have been given refugee status to a particular standard, so there is not a lot you can do there (except not take in asylum seekers, or accept far fewer) — in addition, Irish politicians have obviously agreed to participate in the EU migrant (asylum seeker) distribution agreement, and most of the non-EU migrants arriving in Ireland today are asylum seekers who are coming via this agreement.
Ireland needs to opt out of the EU migrant agreements, as Orban in Hungary has done (also to a lesser degree Poland and the Czech Republic also refuse to participate) — Ireland is not a small net contributor to the EU budget, whereas Hungary is not — so if Hungary can defy the EU on migrants, so can Ireland.

eah
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

>Ireland is not a small net contributor to the EU budget
Should be: Ireland is now a small net contributor to the EU budget

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

That 1951 thing was for refugees not asylum seekers. And the govt. always had the freedom to interpret it how they wished, to limit (they chose to take in just a tiny three-figure number from the Balkan conflict, there was no duress on them to do so and they were free to refuse) and even ignore. It never was designed to facilitate transit across the globe, either.
There’s no binding obligation on Ireland to take any asylum seekers. They have entered into agreements to do so, but they have no power, the intnl. bodies (a faction within the UN) to which they’re connected have no power of applying penalties – which is why you just hear them talking about ‘moral obligations’ etc.
And – of course – the state is free to opt out of it at any time.

But you’re absolutely right – we can follow Hungary’s example. Which Italy was going to do, til Cunt-der-Leyen promised Meloni the migrant-sharing deal.

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eah
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

>There’s no binding obligation on Ireland to take any asylum seekers.
There is though — as long as a country is a signatory of the 1951 treaty (or its 1967 addendum, e.g. the US), there is definitely a legal obligation — if you fail to consider applications for asylum, you can be sued — Hungary has been sued by the EU over its asylum policies (several times now, I think), and it loses these cases:
EU top court rules Hungary’s asylum policies unlawful
But Orban just ignores these decisions — the EU has threatened Hungary with penalties, but Orban refuses to back down.
So you are right, but only in this sense: as a signatory of relevant treaties, Ireland does not have to accept asylum seekers as long as it is prepared to ignore international (also likely domestic) court decisions over its policy.
The problem today is not enough nations are ready to ignore these court decisions.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

The last bit is why Orban cleaned up the judiciary – everybody decried him for putting what they deemed his political allies into position, but ignored the fact that the ones they replaced weren’t neutral to begin with but under the control of the e.commission. You’re spot on about following Hungary’s example.

The EU agreements on asylum vs things signed up to at the u.n.-level:
Asylum seekers are separate to the refugee classification under the post ww2 treaties (there’s no international ‘law’ or court outside the e.u that binds us to anything re- asylum, and the agreements are symbolic & adaptable – also voluntary and can be exited at any time. Varadkar tried to say that as ‘members of the united nations’ we’re obliged to take asylum seekers, which was comedy gold). You can’t be sued or penalised by the u.n. on asylum.
As part of the Eu we are ‘obliged’ (nothing that couldn’t be changed) to take asylum seekers, but not any who have travelled through a safe country.

The Opt-Out is currently ‘in effect’ (origin. circa Lisbon treaty but there’s a whole complex of agreements involved) on sharing eu asylum applicants – i.e. we don’t have to accept any who have first entered another eu state, or presented themselves at or near its borders (eg, a boat in the med) – this is currently the operative rule for Ireland agreed to by Ireland and the e.u., (but which Varadkar chose to ignore, in May 2022 I believe – and chose to take 80 from among a few hundred who’d suddenly arrived, in “solidarity” with the e.u. This has kept happening, and escalated, over the past two years – these are the several thousand north africans, somalis, etc., who’ve suddenly peppered the place in this time frame, they didn’t travel independently but were more or less escorted in, some on chartered flights)
Which is why the Opt-Out of the Migrant-sharing pact is so important.
They’ve chose to flout it – and they know they can’t keep doing this because the above is becomming common knowledge, but it’s the legal status at present.

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Mary Reynolds
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

Does Ireland not have this opt out option due to Maastricht treaty. Someone else said treaty of Amsterdam – whatever that’s about. Denmark too. Is it true that Denmark has taken in none under the migration pact? One can see from the confusion here that we are uniformed. Had we a right wing party, they’d have told us our rights. We should put in extra grants for the Irish who had to flee, to return home. Some of the accomodation provided for the bogus has to be taken to give to the Irish. Only a murdering bastard whose ancestors sucked the blood of the Irish for fun under imperialism, would lay out all this housing for fakes and give none to the Irish. Enhanced grants needed for the Irish to help rear their families. We need the Irish to have more children. It is the Irish population that is not quite replacing itself, not Nigerian, so the Irish must be helped. Many among us are immigration apologists and that’s a problem. Of course, dole for illegals must be cut today, eviction notices given and out. Give their housing to Irish only. That would be a tiny start. I want to see Dublin city centre returned to white Irish.

eah
1 month ago
Reply to  Mary Reynolds

If the UK can leave the EU (Brexit), so can Ireland.
It was a huge mistake by all parties, but especially the British (what’s left of them, anyway) not to negotiate an ironclad replacement to the Dublin Accord before Brexit was finalized — with the Dublin Accord in place and enforced, the UK could just send anyone landing by boat back to France and tell them to apply for asylum there — now there is likely no way to do that that would withstand a legal challenge.
I’ll let everyone think about whether that was an oversight or intentional.
The ‘conservative’ government has been a disaster for the UK, and shows clearly that conventional ‘conservatism’ is dead in Europe — this has contributed directly to the rise of the AfD in Germany.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

Yes, but labour in the uk would have been a good deal worse

ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

It wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference. The boat people don’t make up that much numbers wise. The current Tory government have ramped up legal immigration to record levels since Brexit. The immigrants are coming from non-EU countries perfectly legally by plane

Godflesh
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

That was before EU enlargement. We have enough people here as it is. The government cannot be trusted with providing for anymore. Nor should we give any more

David Sheridan
1 month ago

All part of the plan……destroy Ireland, its culture and the indigenous people. This by any standard is a plantation. Replace the native Irish with the invaders.

Stephen
1 month ago
Reply to  David Sheridan

I couldn’t agree more. A walk around my town and I am in a daze. It is a tower of babel . This is population replacement, plain and simple. I cannot see myself living here much longer.

Patricia Black
1 month ago
Reply to  Stephen

The only problem is-where will you live? Everyplace is the same now unfortunately

Mike
1 month ago

Remember this doesn’t include the kids of migrants, a large amount of whom dont grow up in an English speaking household nevermind an irish speaking one.
The Irish will be a minority in particular in the under 50s age group a lot fast then people think.
30% of 30-40 year olds are already foreigners.

James Mcguinness
1 month ago

This needs to stop and all illegals kicked out. Fine if you come here legally but if you are flushing your documents down the plane jacks, it should be automatic detention pending immediate deportation. Airlines should be fined 1m per infraction.

Buddha
1 month ago

All documentation is recorded when they board the flight. It can be, possibly is, relayed to the authorities at the destination airport.
It is the govt. who are peddling this (the destroyed id) as something out of their control.
To hide the fact that they want them here. Also, that only applies to the migrants who are arriving via the eastwards routes. We’re getting others – somalis and so in – from among the boats arriving in the med. These are getting their passage to Ireland facilitated, we don’t have to take them but varadkar arranged that we did.
We don’t have to take any, that’s why the want us in this migrant pact – the lies about the “we can’t stop them’..throwing their hands in the air about the id issue, etc., are wearing thin. But if the pact is signed, they say “we’re legally bound to this percentage quota set by the eu” of everyone – and it’s gonna ramp up – who arrives at the eu’s borders.
We either copy Hungary (Denmark too), or leave the e.u.
But the problem won’t stop til the political class here are wiped out, and the ties connecting them to their ‘stakeholder’ friends are severed.

In the meantime, all firms involved in the transit of people into the state need to play a role in securing the borders – trained in the law in this area, deny boarding, etc., publish all nationality details for all ships/flights, etc. Make these things a condition of their licence to operate.
Bring back in very strict visa requirements – particularly for countries of nationals not likely to be tourists coming over.
It’s done in every country across the world that chooses to control its borders.

What’s happening here has fuck all to do with destroyed documents. The lack of control is the government’s deliberate choice.

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ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  Buddha

But the problem won’t stop til the political class here are wiped out, and the ties connecting them to their ‘stakeholder’ friends are severed.

Yes, exactly. We need to replace them with ourselves, in Government. Or they’ll continue with their plans to replace us

eah
1 month ago

It quoted James Hegarty of the CSO who claimed that “an additional 4 million migrants would be needed” before 2051 to pay the old age pension.

This same absurdity (i.e. lie) has been advanced for years — how can people who underperform the native population in every economic measure possibly ‘pay the old age pension’ of natives? — unless you import more and more in a kind of giant Ponzi scheme, but even that fits the old joke ‘Sure, we lose money on every item we sell, but we’ll make it up in volume’ — in Germany today, more than half the people on welfare, living totally off the state, are foreigners, and when you count those with German citizenship but an immigrant background it is probably closer to 75% — the Danes did a study of the fiscal impact of migrants (link), and here is a key quote from the abstract (summary):

The main conclusion is that immigrants from richer countries have a positive fiscal impact, while immigrants from poorer countries have a large negative one

Does anyone seriously believe the situation is different in Ireland? — you Irish need to tell your politicians straightaway: We’re not idiots, and we don’t appreciated being treated like idiots.

Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  eah

All the pussyfooting around it needs to stop.
These cunts need to be removed from any position of power, the whole govt.-media colllaborative apparatus torn apart as well

Buddha
1 month ago

This needs to be reversed.
Brought to under 2-3%.

It’s an utter emergency situation and cannot be ignored any longer.

Declan Cooney
1 month ago

A Blessed Gesture to you and your durable relationships.

VIVA CRISTO REY

Dr. Ahmed Akhtar Aziz Amir Atallah
1 month ago

Feels like more than 22%, of course the children of non Irish descent but born here aren’t counted in that figure.

Stephen
1 month ago

In 2004 when we were asked to vote for the Nice referendum which allowed 10 Extra states to join EU the government was warned of what was coming. It was then dismissed as far right xenophobia by the political class. They were wrong then and even more catastrophically wrong now.

Mary Reynolds
1 month ago

John Hegarty, ‘an additional 4 million migrants would be needed before 2051 to pay the OAP’. No more migrants are needed. Hegarty should be tried and jailed for anti-Irish racism. This stinkie is blowing racist wind and wants us gone. The 22% figure is only for those not born here. We have very many who were born here of foreign parents over the years, which gives us a far higher rate of foreigners here, than they are letting on. Those with political power must be kicked out hard and fast. They may be getting backhanders or privileges for wiping us out. Naturalised citizenship is only conditional, it can be withdrawn, under a different government. Easy to get rid of the others. We must get our figures down. I believe the numbers are higher than they are saying. Look at Dublin city centre that has gone brown and black. The mission of our rulers is to double the population of Ireland with immigration. There is an accomodation crisis for the Irish in Ireland. No crisis for the foreigners, all in new houses and apartments. When they had to wait a while in tents there was a huge outcry. But they will be given the first accomodation that comes their way, over paddy’s head. We must empty them out of their houses and give them to the Irish. Bring the Irish home who have fled the country, so they can settle and raise their children here. Grants needed to bring home the Irish in Australia. The obstacle to this is that there is a loyal hardcore who refuse to back down and who will vote FG, FG, SF again, parties who have given us these murderous numbers, with their mass immigration. That’s the problem. We are under tyrannical rule and there are those who may vote for no change. The city centre is brown and black. I want the Irish back and Dublin white again, not an importation of another 4 million of them.

ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  Mary Reynolds

I want the Irish back and Dublin IRISH again

BTN
1 month ago

Migration leads to brain drain in poor countries – that makes absolutely no sense and is immoral.
The West will also take the responsibility of having to care for everyone in the future – have the leaders factored this in to their virtue signalling?

Ar26
1 month ago
Reply to  BTN

Nope. Not a word in the mainstream media about the damage this mass .migration will cause to the countries these people have come from. There are countries all across Africa whose economic forecasts for thr future are now absolutely dire.

Ubrington
1 month ago

Do any of these new arrivals feel any connection to this nation? Obviously not. 22%. Feels like the dissolution of this country. Without doubt this is an existential threat.

Frank F
1 month ago

22% – very alarming.If this keeps going,we be lucky to have 22% of us left and living under sharia law with the new B&T’s police force.
I warned people years ago about voting yes to their treaties.I knew they were riddled in lies (opt ins etc) & look what we have now.
There’s only one way out of this before it’s too late – a total withdrawal from that eu empire – no excuses (ah shur they did this and that for us) – No,they have only done one thing for us – damaged us but not destroyed us yet.
And yes, I am and always was anti eu and if I was old enough at the time, I’d vote NO to that forerunner the eec.

This Nation can get on just fine without em 🇮🇪

BTN
1 month ago

Wannabe London and America.

Democracy raises its head
1 month ago

The FF/FG governments of the past few decades have so much to answer for. They should be deported to one of the countries which they are accepting people they love from and take their fat pensions away from them.
Not one party in power has been properly elected so by default have no mandate from the people yet they toy like our country and spend our children’s legacy like it was theirs to use. Do they not realise these people get houses, dole, benefits and they will looking for pensions in years to come after leeching from the working class so 78% pays will pay for 22% … we are a mad population to allow this to happen.

Des
1 month ago

The Kalergi Plan in action

John Farrelly
1 month ago

Finally.
Finally on Easter Sunday Morning, on the Brendan O’Connor show, RTE 1, the brutal facts about immigration finally broke through!
The economist Dan O’Brein pointed out that according to Eurostat, the European statistics agency, between 2022 to 2023, (one year), the foreign national population in Ireland rose by 250,000 and that this has had an enormous impact on Ireland in almost every sphere. There was he said, more than grounds for complaint. The other panel members, all Lefties, expressed wonder at this staggering rise, but none of them questioned it’s truth or validity.
For once they stayed quiet.
So in summary: in one year, last year, 2022 to 2023, the foreign born population of Ireland rose by a quarter of a million people, way, way above any number previously mentioned or imagined. It showed the truth finally of our immigration madness, and the urgent need we have for people who are trained in data analysis to find the truth among the sea of lies we are been told.
250,000 foreigners came here last year, remember this number when answering a smart arse journalist and then imagine what the results will be if this is allowed to happen again this year???????

Terry
1 month ago

Coming from an American perspective, I cannot get over this. I have said this before on this site: this is insane, shocking. We Irish Americans have an antiquated view of Ireland, I know. We have a simplistic understanding of it and it is not our country. But we thought you all were on guard for people absconding with your country! Is that not what much of Irish history was about, getting your country back? Did people not die for that? Were hundreds of songs and poems not written on that? I think you were seduced by globalism, by being a player. Get out of the EU. It seems like your only hope if you want that island to remain your own. Otherwise, just auction off what’s left of it.

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Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

It is the fault of successive govt.s of the country – which signed Ireland into agreements contrary to their mandate and the will of the people, and lied about the consequences of the few things we did have a say on.

Or, as is happening at present, over-ruled conditions that the people demanded. Specifically, when the Lisbon Treaty referendum (putting Ireland under the control of the e.u. in specific areas) was put to the people it was rejected.
The govt. then renegotiated and got a few guarantees. One of the most important of which was that Ireland would be exempt from e.u. rules on sharing the economic migrants that turn up at the borders of other e.u. countries. This is called our Right of Opt-Out.

The e.u. is planning to allow hugely increased numbers of migrants from the middle-east and africa in, and is creating a new Migrant Sharing Pact that will stop Italy, Greece, etc. from turning them away and instead force all the other nations to take a percentage.

Ireland and Denmark are not obliged to, as they have their Right of Opting-Out (which Denmark is doing – they are aiming for “zero asylum-seekers”)
But the Irish govt. sneakily made an agreement to throw this right away and opt-in to the pact, putting control,of Ireland’s migration policy in the hands of the e.u. They hid it from the people at first, and then said that it (the pact) was designed to ‘streamline’ migration, stop crime, etc. etc., and are trying to hide its real purpose.

If you or anyone you know has any reach – social media or other media, or any other means – with the Irish-American community or with people here in Ireland, family, friends, etc. – please share this with them. Thanks for your interest and concern for the country – it is very much appreciated !

“Ireland currently has no European Union obligation to take in refugees as it has an opt-in or opt-out clause on individual proposals in the areas of freedom, security and justice through the EU Treaty of Lisbon. When there is an EU legislative proposal in these areas, Ireland has three months to decide whether to opt-in or not. If it doesn’t opt-in, discussions go ahead, and any adopted legislation doesn’t apply in Ireland.”
– https://ireland.representation.ec.europa.eu/strategy-and-priorities/key-eu-policies-ireland/eu-migration-policy-and-ireland_en

Get on to your reps – Stop the Migrant Pact.
Send one positive email to independents and Sinn Féin as they have spoke out against the agreement but tell them they’re not doing enough.

Send another to Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael, the Greens and social democrats and tell them you intend to play your part in wiping them out of political existence in all forthcoming elections over this.

This is extremely important – please take the time out for this and share it where you can

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Buddha
1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

TDs and Senators email addresses are – firstname(dot)surname @ oireachtas.ie

M.E.P.s – firstname(dot)surname @ europarl.europa.eu
In case you don’t know your m.e.p.s – there’s a list here https://dublin.europarl.europa.eu/en/meps

This is extremely important – please take the time out for this, tell others, and share it where you can

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ReaIIrish
1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

We Irish Americans have an antiquated view of Ireland, I know. We have a simplistic understanding of it and it is not our country

It is your homeland. Only the leftist and globalist types don’t see Irish Americans as Real Irish. Don’t forget, many of us have relatives in the USA, some recent arrivals and others who’s families went generations ago. Many families in Ireland maintain contact with their relatives in America. When we, the Real Irish Nationalists, restore the sovereignty of our country, Irish Americans will be welcome to come home. We’ll make the path smooth for Irish Americans, the Elderly Irish-born that are still living in Britain who might like to return home, and other Irish further abroad who want to come home.

Britain left the EU and the government there ramped up immigration to record levels – from outside the EU. In or out of the EU makes no difference. Hungary is in the EU yet is not suffering the way we are as the Orban government cares about the Hungarian people.

Teresa
1 month ago

So the ethic Irish population hasn’t increased in 100 years. Similar population figures 4.2 million ethic Irish in 1926 and 2023.

James Hogan
1 month ago

Ireland of the welcomes and punching above our weight when it comes to being the best in Europe in offering asylum.

Maria Mullins
1 month ago

ew dirty foreign born mongeral little babies… disgusting right?

Maria Mullins
1 month ago
Reply to  Maria Mullins

ya’ll are nasty….please re introduce yourself with shame

Maria Mullins
1 month ago
Reply to  Maria Mullins

btw excuse me are you trying to make me mate with a nasty Irish dude?HAHAHAHAHA

Alan Fitzgibbon
1 month ago

Significant jump, however, a bit of balance needed. Of the 157,000 that migrated over the year, approximately 80,000 were Ukrainians, i.e. a one off. Another 40,000 or so came on work permits. Plus of course asylum seekers. Also, bear in mind that a huge proportion of the ‘born overseas’ are offspring or spouses of returned emigrants over the last 20-30 years, plus of course other Europeans. In fact the non European share of the population is somewhere between 5-7%. And finally, there’s up to 100,000 or so that are UK/NI nationals, i.e. our own really.

eah
1 month ago

The bar graph does clearly show that well more than half of the foreign born are from other EU countries — yet those can also be problematic, low quality migrants from places like Bulgaria and Romania (gypsies), or other Slavic and the Baltic states — these people will also change the ‘look and feel’ or Ireland for the worse.
More problematic are the non-EU migrants, as almost all of them are coming as asylum seekers, and they need not meet any standard at all, even the most minimal standard of suitability — they tend to be low quality human capital (to put it bluntly) — I recall seeing an analysis of migrants to the EU done by someone on social media using publicly available data (as you see here, Ireland publishes such data, as do almost all other EU countries) — and his conclusion can be paraphrased this way: It’s nearly impossible to exaggerate the poor quality of the migrants who are currently arriving in the EU.

Ar26
1 month ago

Since when were UK nationals ‘our own ‘ ?

Also, 80,000 Ukranians is far too high.

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Alan Fitzgibbon
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Shane McGowan anyone?. Not to mention pretty much the entire Euro 96 football team.

Alan Fitzgibbon
1 month ago
Reply to  Ar26

Northern Irish not Irish in your book?

Would you support a decision by Ireland to copy the UK's "Rwanda Plan", under which asylum seekers are sent to the safe - but third world - African country instead of being allowed to remain here?

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