This morning, just after 9am, more than 17 hours after the story that appeared on this page on Gript.ie was published the Garda Press Office contacted Gript to say that the unnamed person referred to in the story that appeared at this link yesterday, is not, in fact, a person of interest in the events of last Thursday.
Gript Media’s original reporting was sourced from a member of an Garda Siochána. It was further cross-checked against publicly available records, and while the name of the suspect was not reported, that name was put to a senior Justice official on the basis of an informal “cross-check” before publication.
Gript Media, like other media outlets, has a firm policy of never naming any individual suspected in relation to a criminal act until such time as that person has been charged with a crime, and confirming that there are no reporting restrictions in place. In this case, we kept to that policy, while cross-checking our details with our sources in the usual way.
We are investigating the circumstances of this error, including giving due consideration to the question of whether this media outlet was deliberately deceived by a senior justice official. If we determine that to have been the case, then our obligation to protect the anonymity of those sources will be considered forfeit.
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A fair & thorough article outlining the background to the individual’s presence in this country. Well done to the Gript team for putting the pieces together.
If it’s factually incorrect, he can sue. But he won’t because it’s accurate.
Great journalism
Nothing has changed for the children who were stabbed by a migrant. Nothing has changed for the disenfranchised Dubliners who can’t afford housing, and indeed disenfranchised taxpayers throughout our land. We are still competing with migrants for housing. A competition that is heavily weighted against us because we can’t afford the kind of rent the state is handling out to landlords for the accommodation being provided free of charge to migrants. Excruciating irony being that money is derived from taxes on our hard got wages.
Those two comments have aged well ????????????????
If this was a black op against Gript that would be a huge story in itself
It going to be hilarious watching that predictable narrative being peddled from this blog ????????
They had what they thought was a reliable source .
So either the source got it wrong inadvertently or deliberately. It’s one or the other really.
No idea. Wasn’t privy that ‘investigation’
Inadvertently or recklessly
They didn’t have an official source, being able to identify a public official doesn’t make them your source.
Putting it to “a senior Justice official on the basis of an informal “cross-check” knowing full well that with a criminal case pending they could neither confirm or deny any information is not any sort of an excuse for running the story with uncorroborated information, especially knowing full well that the person named and their realtives would be put in immediate danger.
They’re not journalists and that lack of standard was very clear in this instance. I actually do feel sorry for them because they clearly have delusions of adequacy that have possibly been exploited.
Actually they ask very relevant questions that main journalist don’t ask..why?? because they not interested in asking most important questions…and told to be quiet..
Stitched up so true!
Wow that’s vague and general ????????????. Spoke but said nothing.
Jesus it doesn’t take much cop on to comprehend that there is a likelyhood that this was a stitch up. A news agency like the gript is always going to have very powerfull enemies because they show with great clarity the amount of corruption within the walls of the Dail. Of course everyone is entitled to there opinion but for you to spend so much time on a news site that you obviously do not align with is a poor use of your time. For what it’s worth I can’t recall another story gript has ran that gave false or misleading information.
I didn’t suggest they’ve run a misleading story before!!. They are an easy target because they wrongfully believe they have the skills and adhere to the same standards as professional journalists and that was probably their Achilles heel in this case.
We’re are these professional journalists you speak of Edward. Seriously lad take a good look at what our media are pumping out. They only have one job to do and that is to protect government. The days of ministers getting a good grilling ended a long time ago. Just take a look at the way Eamon Ryan gets a free pass on RTE.
Was the actual identification from the unnamed senior justice official (then used to find rhe court records) or was this identification made by gript, in which case gript would be solely responsible ?
We’ve the odd situation of two Algerians with a history of disputes about their status, both in their forties (sometimes one is said to be 37, sometimes 40s), both in Ireland for twenty years.
Or three, if Youcef Madani’s extradition for terrorism to France wasn’t carried out (coverage stopped when he was bailed last jan). Also Algerian & in his 40s & here for twenty years.
One has signs of torture, one has a prosthetic eye. Two have forms of cancer in their head.
I made a mistake there – all three men are/are said to be in their 50s, with 47 also mentioned.
Solely responsible.
(actual cancer – one a brain tumor and one skull cancer – not metaphoric.
Like those stories of twins separated at birth who live mirroring lives.)
These NGOs have got to go. That was a depressing read, shows the contempt they have of Ireland, nó care given about the danger he posed. There is going to have to be a constitutional challenge to this legislation as soon as it’s passed.
I have noticed since Thursday, the degenerate fanatics have been on every alternative or nationalistic outlet discrediting or “insulting” the articles or videos.
Fact remains, the tide isn’t turning on you lefties, it has well and truly turned.
Just “for the record” – and, in particular, for the benefit of the “naysayers” who’ve posted comments already – my understanding of the “sub judice” rule is that it doesn’t “kick in” until the suspect is charged in court. Notwithstanding that – and as outlined above – the general policy of most news outlets in Ireland (including Gript) is not to name a suspect unless and until he/she is charged in court – of course, the “flip side” is that – once charged – no real comment can be made about the case, save for the most anodyne of remarks. The latter point is to be born in mind – should the man concerned be charged, the “shutters come down” – until a jury delivers its verdict – personally, I think the “sub judice” rule is a wholesome one. (Incidentally, a person cannot be tried if he/she is not fit to plead – my hunch is that the particular individual’s mental state will be the subject of much assessment by both the prosecuting authorities and the individual’s own advisors). All in all, the last 24 hrs. will give “food for thought” for the staff of Gript – in the course of my own professional life (an area far removed from journalism), I’ve made a few errors – hopefully, I learned from my mistakes – one thing is pretty certain (but the “naysayers” may say I’m showing my partisanship here), there’s no element of “bad faith” here – also – aren’t assertions that a person’s well being or life has been jeopardized by the incorrect report totally over the top – no name was given – are we seriously to believe that if, somehow, a member of the public was able to put “2 and 2 together” – he or she wouldn’t – on encountering the person whom he or she thought was the “Parnell Square assailant” – be inordinately perplexed that the person is not lying in hospital and under Garda watch ????
Intersectionalist.
Correct, Helen believes the illegal migrants will Self Deport. Just trying to get your mind around that statement is a head wreaking exercise. The woman is a totalitarian, Marxist to her core.
I was thinking the establishment wasn’t going to let McGuirk off so easily.
They leaked him a story , backed it up with another source then sat back and waited for the shit to hit the fan.
McGuirk walked right into it .
Or, the report is correct, and the Garda Press Office say they’re talking about the wrong person, because, the attacker was never named, no images (clear, anyway) of him are out, and apparently he is brain damaged in a coma. Nobody knows who he is. No name was given. No identity.
All speculation, of course. Would you trust the Government/Gardaí/Media to tell the truth? We all saw how John McGuirk handled the shills on Virgin, where they more or less admitted they withhold certain info on stories.
They – Irish Times ? (three or four days ago) – mentioned a ‘family member’ who said the attacker had a ‘mental,illness since having a brain tumor’.
Was this via the gardaí ?
I don’t know?
On the bright side at least when things go wrong you don’t have a low energy armchair critic supposedly on the same side as yourself and tut tutting from his bully pulpit.
Sorry couldn’t resist.
No worries. I totally understand. It’s a tough day to be a supporter of Gript.
Everyone’s aloud one bad day. The other side, however, are done for. A little hiccup across the finish line. No ones perfect.
I’m really sorry but I’m not sure what the above statement means. Very much lacking in clarity.
‘Allowed’ ?
It’s a small victory… if even.
does anyone else feel like we are living through our episode of Father Ted right now?
I meant our own* episode … boo down with that sort of thing lol
Nice reporting. Interesting to see that multiple Ministers Of Justice reaffirmed the deportation order. The state didn’t believe he was credible and found inconsistencies in his story. And yet he was able to stay as an “evader” of the law for 9 years and eventually become a national. There was plenty of people in authority who determined this guy shouldn’t be allowed to stay but there was no follow through on that determination. The Court ruling to overturn the deportation seems poorly reasoned and ultra vires; applying a court made law retroactively to a decision made at highest level of the Irish government seems very questionable. I might have thought that the appropriate separation of powers demand that the court defer to the Ministers’ decision given the set of facts here Particularly, given the elected official made the decision to affirm the deportation consistent with the law at the time. One might think the courts would know their proper place in a constitutional republic. All a bit naive and ineffective. You can’t fault the decisions of the elected officials, but the failure to implement that decision and subsequent court decision might be an area worthy of further reporting and investigation. Great reporting. RTE should watch and learn.
What happened to Mohamed Akrouf who stabbed someone in Grafton St in the summer? He was refused bail. What happened to that case after that?
Defund all NGO’s now. They are profoundly undemocratic.
Lot of buck passing in that statement. It contains absolutely zero journalistic integrity …..
Putting it to “a senior Justice official on the basis of an informal “cross-check” knowing full well that with a criminal case pending they could neither confirm or deny any information is not any sort of an excuse for running the story with uncorroborated information, especially knowing full well that the person named and their realtives would be out in immediate danger.
Exactly. Which is why this blog should apologize immediately.
There are plenty of supports here for asylum seekers, Joseph.
And keep in mind that asylum seekers are not allowed to “asylum shop”, for good reason. Asylum must be sought at the first port of entry. Which of course they often don’t do.
I know. The NGOs and and Far Left make it difficult to do those things.
But even then, it would still be up to the applicants to self-present.
Can someone explain to me what this is in reference to? Was it the article about the legal history of the only suspect in the stabbings to citizenship in Ireland? Was that another person’s legal history?
and he’d run from here
You don’t read anything they report is my guess, against immigration they are not, but that would require an ability to decimate information. Something I see you have yet to learn. Plenty of media out there who will tell your type of news. Legacy, Soros sponsored commies. Enjoy your echoe chamber all in tune media.
Looking forward to seeing the you sued into oblivion
Bullshit. You knew exactly what you were doing, which is what you usually do except that no-one usually pays attention to your low-rent bigot-click farm. Except your fascist fan club is now literally rioting in the streets so when you published “brown-skinned person in hospital – wink wink, nudge nudge” piece it actually showed up on the radars of your social betters. Cannot wait for the libel trial.
I care more about the child in hospital, than the brown skinned adult. Do you?
3 out of 5 of the people who stopped the attack were immigrants. One of the children stabbed has immigrant parents. But of course you don’t care.
Only one person stopped the attack.
Social betters??????
That is not thru as much as I agree with you, only few years ago mother killed her 3 kids at home, that is even more horrible, they trust that women, she didn’t even made to jail,all down to mental health issues. There is no way that man in normal mental state, killing kids in the middle of Dublin City.
It matches the profile of islamist motivated knife attacks and these are always described as such, eg, the London Bridge attacks and the other knife attack in the London Park by the second jihadist at atound then ame time, multiple attacks across Europe this year including Isis-inspired beheadings, such as also occured in Sligo. and none of them of course could be said to have a ‘normal mental state’ but nonetheless were capable of deliberation.
There was a shift around twenty years ago in political and media discourse which began to include ‘lone-wolf’-style attacks which occured independent of recognised terrorist organisations as ‘terrorist’. For the past few years the practice has been to name them as such when they occur, a convention followed everywhere by journalists and politicians, except in Ireland for some reason.
Parental killings of children due to mental illness are a sad occurrence which happens, and there are obviously cases where this occurs through malice where there are no mental health factors at play too.
There are also abuse/abduction related murders of children by people unknown to them
But an attack like this is an entirely novel occurence here, more horrific than anything encountered before by a considerable distance.
Actually, the labelling ‘lone wolf’ has disappeared in reports outside of Ireland so something changed and it looks like Irish journalists got the memo. It seems like when these type of attacks happen anywhere now they go straight to ‘mental health issues’.
My guess is that ‘lone wolf’ confirms in peoples minds that it’s still a terrorist attack and by re-labelling these attacks as ‘mental health issues’ it removes the connection from people’s minds and people swiftly move on with their day i.e. “No more problem”. Or if anything, there are calls for more money to be spent on ‘mental health’, some hand-wringing and no clear strategy to put an end to it.
Hence this will drag on for many years/decades to come. It should be noted by those who think the attacker had mental health issues that he deliberately targeted children outside a Gaelscoil rather than Muslim children.
More fake news from Gript, and this time with very real consequences for the victim
At least McGuirk didn’t blame Irigi this time ????
More fake news? What other articles have they put out that were “fake news”?
As someone else said, it was their source that got the info wrong, not Gript.
More implies at least one other, can you provide proof of same?
And very real legal consequences for Gript too as orginators of the unverified story….
Unverified story, where nobody was named.
I officially call on Gript to issue an official apology to the man who now requires Garda protection as a result of their attempt at journalism
How do anyone know they’re talking about the wrong person? Gript never named anyone? Does the other person exist?
Why? They did not name him, if he even exists.
Bollicks
Would ya look at that. Gript being massive wankbags again. Who could he have predicted this!
Disgraceful – look at the impact this carelessness has had – all after a week of Gript claiming to be responsible journalists.
The spectacle of this group of bloggers pretending to operate to the same standard as serious, professional journalism was funny for a while but has definitely taken a serious and sinister turn since last Thursday
The fact that people like your goodself now feel it necessary to come to the chat here on Gript is telling in and of itself. If Gript was failing you would not care at all
The fact you have made it your business to go on to a website that you clearly dislike speaks volumes for Gript’s success
The number of begging for money podcasts and now a similar message attached to every published post doesn’t speak of a blog in rude health.
Haven’t seen Irish Times constant begging bowl? Despite them getting a Gov bailout in the way of a VAT removal which they didn’t pass on to their readers!
What the link between The Irish Times and a blog? The above comment didn’t make it clear.
Only difference between Gript and IT is Gript try (not always) to publish facts and let their readers decide while Irish Times as part of the Regime Media is only interested in pushing propaganda and psyops on the Irish public. That’s a big difference though!
McGuirk is an ape, always was, and this just reinforces it.
Ah now: There’s enough things you can say about him that will make him look bad. An overly personal comment like that just makes you look bad so it’s counterproductive.