With Sarah off, John is joined by barrister and campaigner Laoise de Brún, and the conversation covers loads: Immigration, surrogacy, religion, hunger strikes, and why Laoise – a life long leftie – now calls herself a conservative: VIDEO PODCAST: Available on Spotify & iTunes Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7kOPNDrvsxqXv8uicOotvP iTunes https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-week-that-really-was/id1653091194?uo=4