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REVEALED – the documents the state didn’t want you to see before the referendums

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Documents provided to Gript under FOI show that senior officials in the Department of Justice believed that amending Article 41 of the Constitution to include non-marital families, as proposed by the Government in a recent referendum, would undermine, or even outright destroy, the ability of the State to operate an effective immigration system.

One email seen by Gript shows senior officials in the Department being told that The State has been able to maintain an immigration system so far precisely because Article 41 is applied to a small, tightly-defined group of people. The State will not be able to regulate immigration if this protection is applied any more widely.”

In one of the two referendums held in March of this year the Government attempted to expand the definition of family in Article 41 to include non-marital families which were based on “durable relationships.”

In June of 2023 the Department created, and distributed, a survey asking the divisions of the Department dealing most closely with immigration about the impact that the proposed constitutional amendments may have on their work, and if there were any “immigration units/legislation/schemes/case law” they believed “may be vulnerable if either or both of these referendums pass.”

The survey asked about specific proposed wording to amend Article 41; broadening Article 41 to include non-marital families more generally; and about the potential impact of a constitutional amendment requiring the state to support the provision of care by family members. The questions were described as “vague, wide-ranging and require a lot of work…unfortunately, however, this is also the case for the proposed constitutional amendments!”

The process of overseeing the completion of the survey by the various divisions was handled by a senior legal researcher from the Department’s Legal Services Support Unit. 

That researcher, in an email to senior officials in the Department, summarising the responses they had received, stated that:

the summary of all legal issues so far is that the amendments as currently worded will massively restrict the State’s ability to regulate its immigration system. 

It is not an exaggeration to say that it will be extremely difficult, and perhaps impossible, to maintain a meaningful immigration system should the People accept these amendments.”

The State has been able to maintain an immigration system so far precisely because Article 41 is applied to a small, tightly-defined group of people. The State will not be able to regulate immigration if this protection is applied any more widely.”

The researcher overseeing the survey also stated that “While I did not seek observations on non-legal issues, all units who have returned [the survey] so far have emphasised the extremely severe and extremely concerning effects of either/both of these amendments on their resources.” This was described as “noteworthy.”

In the survey responses seen by Gript multiple divisions of the Department highlighted significant and wide-reaching issues with any attempt to extend constitutional protection to non-marital families.

One response to the survey stated that “The IPO [International Protection Office] needs a clear definition of who is included in family – broadening the definition [of a family] to include siblings or nieces/nephews could lead to an increase in family reunification claims for those granted refugee status and overwhelm the system. We need a tight definition.”

A different response, coming from the Permission To Remain (PTR) unit of the Department, stated that amending Article 41 “could undermine our permission to remain considerations and by extension the international protection process”, and that expanding the relationships that could be considered to benefit from constitutional protection would create a situation which “arguably lowers the threshold for a granting of permission to remain.”

PTR went on to say that the proposed amendments could “undermine immigration control and the ability to control the entry of non-nationals.” This, they say. “could trigger [sic] influx of unaccompanied minors who are considered at risk and may be granted protection in light of this only to have a family member enter the State then to care for them.”

The Visa unit of the Department stated that changes to Article 41 would “probably” lead to “a large increase in Join Family visa applications” as the Department would have to “assess an extended family member making an application under the ‘Other Family Member’ category as favourably as a spouse/partner or a minor child of the sponsor.”

They state that extending Article 41 to include non-marital families would mean they would have to give such consideration to “adult siblings, cousins, nieces/nephews, adult children, parents/grandchildren.”

A separate response took the same view, noting that “The Seanad Civil Engagement Group in partnership with Oxfam tried to have the government extend the definition of family for refugees in a recent bill but the government denied it based on a money message. If the definition of family is expanded this could result in the outcome they required without need for other legislation.”

A common theme amongst the responses is that amending Article 41 would lead to substantial increases in the complexity and cost of dealing with immigration. The Visa unit noted that amending Article 41 “may also increase litigation” taken against the State and that “we will be left in a legal grey area for several years while waiting for legal precedents to be established which will create yet more delays and backlogs.”

The Visa unit was also of the view that the proposed changes would ”create massive, massive legal costs to the Department and to the State.”

Responding to the question of what existing legislation, schemes or case law relevant to the unit could be made vulnerable to legal challenge if the amendments passed the Visa unit stated, “Regarding case law, the number of judgements this would undermine or render irrelevant is too many to mention…Realistically, any instance where we have received a judgement on a Join Family application involving an extended family member would be potentially vulnerable [to legal action].”

The Visa unit was concerned that the care amendment would impact on their work, stating that “it is likely that we will see false claims of dependency appearing and causing subsequent court cases upon refusal. It may be difficult to refute the false claims, and non-biological family members may enter to reside to provide this proposed care and become a burden on the State.”

The Family Reunification Unit also voiced concerns about the care amendment, stating that “Application will also likely be made for minors who are adopted, wards and/or the subject of guardianships (whether formal, informal or customary in all cases. This final group have the potential to raise considerable concerns around child welfare and the prevention of trafficking.”

They added, “The extension of protection to non-marital families may also open the question of family reunification in cases of polygamy.”

The Border Management Unit stated that the care amendment would mean “It would be very difficult to decide on whether a Non-National should be granted entry to enable them to care for a person in the State at the border…it would be difficult or impossible for an Immigration Officer to assess the caring needs of the person in the State, the relationship of the Non-National and the Bona Fides of the asserted caring role.”

On the impact that extending constitutional protection to non-marital families might have on their work the Border Management Unit noted that “It could be very difficult for an immigration officer at the port of entry to decide if asserted family connections means that a person must be granted entry,” and that it may be “unreasonable or unrealistic to expect non-national family members to have the documentation to prove the relationship available at the point of entry, as opposed to the current relatively straightforward procedure where a marriage certificate suffices.”

The Border Management Unit also noted the risk of an increase in the number of judicial reviews against refusals.

Another comment states that broadening the definition of family rights “would of course have an huge impact especially in areas such as Permission to Remain considerations, Family reunification, temporary protection, etc.” Given the strength of the rights afforded by Article 41 this comment went on to say that “any change would have big implications.”

Whilst it’s not clear what version of the amendments were put forward for consideration in the survey, as this information was redacted, we do know, from previous FOIs acquired by Gript, that 6 variant wordings of the care amendment were considered, and that considerable consideration was given to ensuring that the wording chosen would place as few obligations upon the Government as possible. You can read more about that in this article.

This latest batch of documents shows one Principal Officer, discussing the amendment wording that was being considered, saying “All of this seeking to distinguish between ‘endeavour’, ‘strike’ etc. reminds me of my secondary school English teacher who, when presented with work that was below the usual standard of the student concerned, would ask the unanswerable question, ‘Was that your best effort?”

Regardless of the specific variant wording put forward in this survey many of the responses deal with the broader idea of amending Article 41 and, as such, would appear to be immediately applicable to the amendment put forward by the Government.

The results of the survey were, according to the documents seen by Gript, to be forwarded on to the Attorney General’s Office. It is unclear if Minister Helen McEntee was made aware of the apparently widespread concerns within her Department.

Gript initially applied for access to these documents in January of this year, but our initial FOI was refused. We received these documents following an appeal. 

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N17
15 days ago

Great piece of investigative journalism as always Gary. This government and these people in government seem to have no personal moral standards or political standards. They are hollow empty vessels and are not fit to hold elected office.
Lies, more lies and do anything but respect the wishes of the Irish people nor meet their needs is all they seem capable of. Its truly sickening.

Laura Crowley
15 days ago

Multiple politicians repeatedly said that “there would be no impact on immigration”.

This is so serious , Mc Entee & O’Gorman should be stripped of their ministerial positions for this.

How can we have a person overseeing the migration pact that is so very clearly in favour of open borders & that has such deep disregard for our laws & constitution.

James Mcguinness
15 days ago

Nice one lads, it literally says that they wont be able to flood the country unless we remove article 41. There is your definition of durable relationships right up there in their words. Dont understand why they could not say that above….lol.

Sick_of_Lies!
15 days ago

With the immigration Pact, they want to bypass the constitution! Plan B?

James Mcguinness
15 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

Once we vote in an actual irish government, they go to eu and lay demands, if they dont capitulate, referendum on menbership and leave. An actual irish government will pay the 20k until we know. If the government does not address this off the bat, they are not an irish government, then there will be trouble. The real independents know this is the risk they take when standing. There is one chance to fix this in the next year before all hell brakes loose.

Sick_of_Lies!
15 days ago

Just call me ‘Sick’ James :-).
An election result that they don’t want will be attempted to be over-turned. They are answering now to the UN and the WEF. They have a global reset secret social contract, that does not recognize democratic results. Only the rich and powerful are allowed to decide the future. We definitely need a peoples army of some sort. The Gardaí are just stupid pawns…and they are not clever enough to know it!
This is an interesting interview on the big picture by Ivor Cummins:

James Mcguinness
15 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

I like listening to that fella, he is spot on in most stuff. We dont care what they agreed or who they agreed what with. Its very simple really, the irish were never very good with authority and still are not today which is why people do things like speed, park on footpaths etc…Its in our genes in fact and the reason is because we are an autonomous people. Anytime people tried to challenge that bad things happened. This situation is no different. We have a distinct advantage in ireland right now and that is the majority of the people are on the same page. Secondly, there are roughly 25k personal in some specified military or policing capacity with a few thousand rich on top of it. When you compare that to the millions of really fucked off people, most who would come out against these rich clowns, the odds are not good for the minorities. You see we are very in touch with the fact that when you have nothing, you have nothing to loose. So if the next government dont do the will of the people and send us further down the tyranny rabbit hole with their plans of you will own nothing and be happy, you will start to see people at protests ramming through the black n tan police forces and they wont be so polite about it either, you will see gurilla warfare, you will see behaviors that will make the current situation look like a saturday night on the tiles and there wont be much that their un buddies can do about it from their high perch either. You see this is why a government needs strong leadership to stave off the marxists, not yes men. Strong leaders mean good times. If the government did the will of the people, there would be none of this and if the next government does not do the will of the people, may god help them. Myself like other would rather die than live their existence for us, freedom is never given, its always taken. We took it before and we will take it again if we have to. We dont care what they agreed, we did not agree with it and it was not in any of their mandates what they agreed which makes them complicit of genocide through there plantation.

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Sick_of_Lies!
15 days ago

Yes I agree, just to say, that our political idiots are being pressurised by people from abroad, who are very well organised. That is why the Irish need to use that natural disobedience and to organise it for maximum effect. Unfortunately, we don’t have a natural populist party, that we can automatically vote for. This means we have extra work to do before the election!

James McGuinness
15 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

Spot on, yes we do, alot of work that should have been done years ago and its best to elect 180 individuals who cant see eye to eye on everything than 4 parties that see eye to eye on everything. You cant bribe everyone if most of them are independents. Alot will have integrity which no man can buy. That is how we beat the cabal and get our country back. Once we get it back. we need to change the currency to gold backed and ban the central bank, invalidate the bonds with the new currency and ban the vultures and their shells.

John joseph McDermott
15 days ago

😡👍👍

Lee
14 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

I guarantee they will delay next years election for as long as they can and when the time comes it will be rigged one way or another

SHANE
13 days ago
Reply to  Lee

They will be out for the likes of Carol Nolan.Wait for the dirty tricks.

Anne Donnellan
10 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

I suggest people show in person
Peacefully
At tge Dail
On Tuesday Wednesday Thursday
Also if any one can pursue Raymond Crotty judgment, happy to contribute

Des
15 days ago

The smoking gun, if one were needed, this Irish administrative state and political/globalist class are actively undermining the rights and sovereignty of the Irish people and are showing no appetite to desist. Alternative methods to resolve this blatant deception, corruption and destruction of Ireland must now be on the table

Nick
15 days ago

Economics tells us that immigrants make landowners and employers richer and workers poorer.
Another aspect of immigration is that it pushes up both rents and house prices. There is higher demand, so the prices go up. This makes landlords richer, but it also prices Irish workers out of the housing market.
What do the Irish workers, who are seeing downward pressure on their wages and upward pressure on houses prices do. They borrow and borrow again to keep up, turning the entire country into a debt pyramid. (D Mc W)

*Which in turn make the rich richer and the elite more elite.

David McWilliams who is now critical of protesters against uncontrolled immigration into this country wrote this piece.

remembering Easter 1916
15 days ago
Reply to  Nick

truth to word there but Paddy’s keep running to the pub , this government is so thankful for the pub = no protests, in France Holland Europe in general , Dublin would be at a standstill now over this issue.we need civil war politics to save our little country 👍💚

Dr David Barnwell
15 days ago

Pub PLUS English League Soccer.

Frank F
15 days ago
Reply to  Nick

The last paragraph – another once I’m awrite Jack

Anne Donnellan
10 days ago
Reply to  Nick

Used to like him, but fear he may now be on tge other side

Sick_of_Lies!
15 days ago

This gives us the reason why they are pushing this and clarifies it all! This government wants to overthrow our system with even more immigration, knowing that we just don’t have the physical beds… without them making laws, to force private house-holds to take in immigrants, that one won’t be able to expel, if they get problematic. They can even expel us or put us in prison for resisting, like people who changed locks in the USA. It is particularly damning for Varadkar and McEntee. It is probably why Harris has been given the job, as Varadkar had lost the battle. He has to force the constitutionally illegal immigration pact through! I see this as treason of the highest order! Their immigration Pact attempts to bypass the constitution, also leads to the same conclusion as the referendum. It reflects on the similar strategy being taken in the US, to have no control over their immigration! This is no coincidence! These people need to be taken down and then prosecuted! Keep the walls of Kilmainham Jail ready!

remembering Easter 1916
15 days ago

civil war 2 👍

Mullet
15 days ago

5 million people against a few politicians

Liam P.
13 days ago
Reply to  Mullet

Not quite. There is a large cohort of party allied people who will support all government policy. Add to this another significant and growing group of IPA’s,illegals & remainers,many with recent military training and experience.Irish history has always been bedeviled by these,so they cannot be disregarded. The need to constantly classify dissenters as ‘Extreme Right Wing’ also serves to dilute dissent and instil fear in many ordinary people,eg: the arrival of Garda Public Order Units en masse into rural Irish towns,hitherto policed by occasional visits from a remote HQ. The clarity of those internal documents appears to suggest that a Cabinet in receipt of them,would have immediately cancelled those referenda. Perhaps the more important issue here is ‘Was the full Cabinet given sight of these documents ?

A Call for Honesty
15 days ago

Every politician who tried to hide this was being dishonest with his or her constituents and should be booted out of politics. I hope voters will remember come the next election.

Mullet
15 days ago

Leo the liar. Glad that liar was kicked out of leadership.

Michael Clarke
15 days ago

I can’t imagine the Minister not being provided with this information. If she was, her position is now untenable. If she wasn’t, a serious investigation is required as to why she wasn’t provided with it. Likewise if the information was provided to the AG he has questions to answer (if he is still in his post) and if it wasn’t questions need to be asked and answered as to why he was not given the information. Given the way things have gone in the civil service since TLAC was introduced in the 1980s I’m not that surprised at what I’ve read (or that the initial FOI request was denied) but it is shocking.

Frank F
15 days ago
Reply to  Michael Clarke

From what I can see, there’s nobody calling a halt to anything going on up there it’s like they can do what they want.They can’t get their way over the line fast enough and then they’ll probably allow us to hold our free elections.

Gav
15 days ago

There is a name for someone that tries to change the constitution to the detriment of the citizens covered by that constitution. Loyal and patriotic are not the ones I’m thinking off.

Davey Gerard
15 days ago

Barrister Tracey O’Mahony outlines the consequences of Ireland opting into the EU migration pact.. This will be disastrous for Ireland and once we “opt” we can’t opt out in future.. Protect our sovereignty..contact your TD now
https://youtu.be/fxfCRwcIlmc?si=0Z59xyRePsoduneY

Frank F
15 days ago
Reply to  Davey Gerard

Great video & the general consensus in the comments section is to leave the eu.
As was mentioned by others, it’ll be hard for a while but it would be worth it compared to what’s coming down the tracks if we stay Irexit now I say 🇮🇪🇮🇪

Liam P.
13 days ago
Reply to  Frank F

No need to leave. The world has moved on from when we joined the EEC. We cannot change that now. However,what we CAN do is realign our country with those less ‘savoury’ member states now regularly annoying Ms Von der Leyen and Mr Michel. Ireland and it’s people really do need to start paying attention to what’s afoot in Brussels,read about it and ask the questions of our LOCAL politicians before our Governments blindly nod EU centric legislation through to Irish law. Almost all such EU regulations come with degrees of flexibility and/or derogations which can,and should be fully availed of by Irish Governments. The issue is why have successive Irish Governments not availed of these ?

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Paula
14 days ago
Reply to  Davey Gerard

Thanks Davey I was going to put up the Russell brand one that he did 2 weeks ago but this one is good too. I hope more see it and start emailing TDs

John joseph McDermott
15 days ago

What in God’s name is this unelected coalition of crooks, clowns and criminals trying to do to our little nation.??
It beggars belief, the lies that they tell us daily and the smear campaign against our citizens.!

James Gough
15 days ago

My god. This is utterly shocking. The government knew all of this and yet went ahead with trying to change the constitution in away that would have destroyed Ireland. If this is not treachery than what is.

Frank F
14 days ago
Reply to  James Gough

Great comment James – I’m not sure if the charge of Treason is in the Statute Books anymore (they probably removed it saying it is a backward way of going forward knowing that lot)!

Teresa Ryan
13 days ago
Reply to  Frank F

Treason Act 1939, still on the statute books.

Article 39 of the constitution defines what treason is.

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Frank McGlynn
15 days ago

Can this be raised in the Dáil or Seanad. McEntee and O’Gorman have serious questions to answer

Jagath Gunawardana
14 days ago

So the next question is why would they go ahead with the referendum, or at least with that wording. The only conclusion is that they want to wreck the country. Time to get them all out and restart with people who actually care about maintaining a country and a culture. They seem to want to turn Dublin into Lonodn/Paris/Some other s*** hole city (and the rest of the country).

Patrick
15 days ago

People who voted yes in either of these referendums must feel very angry and annoyed.

Martin Byrne
15 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

The people who voted yes are probably the same ones that would benefit from it and of course a few Turkeys who would vote for Christmas.

Sick_of_Lies!
15 days ago
Reply to  Patrick

So… you think our wonderful media will inform them?

James Gough
15 days ago
Reply to  Sick_of_Lies!

I can’t see how the media can ignore this. If they do they are totally finished. The information is out there now and will spread either way. This junta truly is at war with its own people.

David Gleeson
15 days ago

Get this information front and centre. Let every elector see and understand how this country is being governed.

David Sheridan
15 days ago

This government are traitors. In some countries the penalty for treason is death…..

Des
14 days ago

Ireland may have protection under article 41 of the Constitution re immigration, for now. However no matter what any Govt does re immigration and other domestic issues, the simple fact multiple Irish Govt have anchored Ireland into the belly of the EU federalist beast is a massive issue. They control the money supply, if Ireland step out of line the lines of credit are cut off, this is the leverage the EU has. Ireland needs to remove its self from the EU however times will be hard until the country becomes self sufficient once again and regains its autonomy and sovereignty. No pain no gain!

Paula
14 days ago
Reply to  Des

I agree with you.

Wesley
15 days ago

Aha but isn’t that exactly the intention? Free for all; Chaos; Destruction.

James Mcguinness
15 days ago

A sad compilation of an illegal admitting that he escaped from prison during a thirty year stretch for triple murder and the black n tans doing nothing about it. Also showing taytos protection of women. Music is a bit naff though. https://www.bitchute.com/video/25mhfO2gHGIY/

Dr David Barnwell
15 days ago

Like most people, I was aware of the effect of the durable relationships nonsense on Mass Immigration.
But above article shows me that I completely missed the effects of the Carers Amendment on Open Doors Migration.

tammy1
15 days ago

Mcantee is the perfect gobshite.

Paula
14 days ago
Reply to  tammy1

Yes Tammy she’s a classic example of a village idiot

Baz
14 days ago

Just shows the importance of proper investigation by real journalists. Guys stop believing everything you are told my main stream media they are dangerous just like this government

Diarmuid Brennan
13 days ago

The solution is simple – we need an election now – but we need to be careful – make sure your candidate is on the right page ( and not a wolf in sheeps clothing )

Paula
14 days ago

Christ I’d say we dodged a bullet there but we already knew that. What f are they doing ? Maybe he left McEntee in that job because it will take the pressure off him. And she can’t even answer a question I wouldn’t trust her to go buy a liter of milk in the shop

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Stephen
14 days ago

More proof of a massive concerted effort to deceive the public. Everyone of them should be called on to resign.

Dominic Dunne
15 days ago

Received

Denis O'Connell
15 days ago
Reply to  Dominic Dunne

Yes, “i before e, except after c” was the way we learnt it in school.

JD
13 days ago

Are we dealing with a fraudulent government?

Jos Haynes
13 days ago

I guess it shows the intentions of the Irish Government and their masters. Goodbye Old Ireland Forever … Hail Our Brave New International Order. But will people remember this, come the next election?

Anthony Ledger
13 days ago

The people will have their say shortly and the government will have no other choice but listen.
Right now the arrogance of this government clearly shows they are incapable of listening.

Thaum
13 days ago

As voiced by other poeple here, a brilliant piece of work.
While I am not surprised, I am utterly appaled at the way government tried to railroad this through. This really is the smoking gun. O’Gorman and McEntee were in this up to their necks. So was Varadakar. In fact, every man jack of the caninet would have know of the staunch opposition to this. I am beyond words.

SHANE
13 days ago

Well done Gary.You are a credit to journalism.So this is what reading good journalism feels like.

Didnt gript have a video recently of Helen McEntee stating how strict our family reunification and refugee laws were.

I really really believe these people hate Ireland.

Aidan Joyce
13 days ago

Great work as usual. If I could make one comment please. “REVEALED – THE DOCUMENTS THE STATE DIDN’T WANT YOU TO SEE BEFORE THE REFERENDUMS” – it would also have been nice to see a scan of the document in the article.

Séa Ó Neachtain
11 days ago

Unfortunately once again it is quiet evident we are being governed by TRAITORS who’s sedition knows no bounds.
It disappointingly also highlights the debts of complicity of our “Established National Media” in particular RTE, in disguising, supporting and promoting these Sidious and Treasonous endeavours.

Teresa Ryan
13 days ago

A Principle officer is an administrative role. Same pay scale as a TD. Someone who has passed the exams after several attempts. They may or may not have a law degree. They most certainly are not qualified solicitorsor barristers because they are career civil servants, yet they could see the problems with the wording.

You would think that any government bringing a referendum to the people to change the constitution would at least engage the services of junior and senior counsel or three, whose expertise is in constitutional law.

Amateurs, the whole bloody lot.

Michael Lucey
13 days ago

James Mcguinness We definitely need a peoples army of some sort. The Gardaí are just stupid pawns…and they are not clever enough to know it!”
I don’t think we need a ‘Peoples Army’ as we already have an Irish Army. As for the Gardai, they are under the control of the Government and generally do the job they ‘signed up’ for. If anyone has a break-in they would be glad to have the Gardai to hand! What we DO need is the reinstatement of,
Article 48 of the CONSTITUTION OF THE IRISH FREE STATE ACT, 1922.
The Oireachtas may provide for the Initiation by the people of proposals for laws or constitutional amendments. Should the Oireachtas fail to make such provision within two years, it shall on the petition of not less than seventy five thousand voters on the register, of whom not more than fifteen thousand shall be voters in any one constituency, either make such provisions or submit the question to the people for decision in accordance with the ordinary regulations governing the Referendum. Any legislation passed by the Oireachtas providing for such Initiation by the people shall provide
(1) that such proposals may be initiated on a petition of fifty thousand voters on the register,
(2) that if the Oireachtas rejects a proposal so initiated it shall be submitted to the people for decision in accordance with the ordinary regulations governing the Referendum;
and
(3) that if the Oireachtas enacts a proposal so initiated, such enactment shall be subject to the provisions respecting ordinary legislation or amendments of the Constitution as the case may be.
Michael Collins was the man that ensured this ‘Safety Device’ Article was inserted in the Free State Constitution and it appears that its removal / discontinuation in the 1937 Irish Constitution was down to Arch Bishop McQuaid and Dev.
At the time this Article was inserted technology was simple, just pen, paper and post! Today things can be instant!
It would be fantastic if RIPT got behind a movement whereby this important and ‘Ultimate Power to the People‘ Article was reinstated. I personally would have no difficulty in casting my vote when required via my iPhone under a secure app and I think this would be the case with many other Irish Citizens that have a serious interest in Ireland.
So, how about it RIPT? Should the reinstatement of Article 48 be on your list of ‘To Do’s’?

David Byrne
13 days ago

Hate to burst your balloon but the No vote will not stop fake refugees bringing all their friends. They will just continue to marry / adopt / procreate. The only thing the No vote did was leave unmarried people in limbo or at the mercy of their natural families. I voted yes to protect an adult disabled friend from cruel siblings. She will now have to pretend to be a lesbian and get “married” to protect her home and to stop her “next of kin” interfering in her medical care. Doctors and nurses even ignored power of attorney and let family visit my sick friend in hospital against her wishes. I would marry her for her safety only it would make my situation more complicated.

frank
13 days ago

I’ve heard the phrase kamakazi greens bandied about, is it that the greens knowing they will be wiped out next election want to bring down FF/G down with them?
Is it possible the green tail is wagging the FF/G dog?
There are parts of FG though, especially the rural side that are very unhappy with how things are right now.
All hail our new SF masters I guess?

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