The new EU Asylum and Migration Pact will increase Ireland’s “obligations to act in unity with our European neighbours” on immigration matters, the Department of Justice has said – though one TD has claimed that the plan “will generate massive financial costs for Ireland as it attempts to reduce the number of asylum seekers who are processed here.”
In a statement to Gript, the Department said the plan would “protect our borders” and asylum system.
“As with any such EU level agreement, opting in will increase our obligations to act in unity with our European neighbours,” a spokesman said.
“Equally, it will also protect our borders, our asylum system and our resources, as our neighbours will be likewise be obliged to uphold their commitments under the Pact and support us in solidarity in the event of mass irregular inward migration.”
Proponents of the plan say that its aim is to speed up the processing of individuals arriving from safe countries, with specific procedures in place for those who pose a threat to the state, who originate from countries where the EU-wide asylum approval rate is 20% or less, or who have deceived authorities – for example by destroying their travel or identification documents. This would also apply to immigrants who enters states illegally.
Individuals subjected to this border procedure would not be permitted to enter Ireland, and would be housed at specified sites, with their applications processed within three months. If their application was denied, they would be deported within an additional three months.
Furthermore, the pact will expand the groups of migrants required to undergo fingerprinting and checks against the Eurodac database upon arrival.
However, the agreement also introduces a new solidarity measure, mandating countries to either contribute financially or agree to relocate some asylum seekers from nations experiencing significant strains.
Independent TD for Laois-Offaly Carol Nolan said that the “so-called ‘solidarity’ mechanisms will generate massive financial costs for Ireland as it attempts to reduce the number of asylum seekers who are processed here.”
“While in principle there are some aspects of this that we can all support, such as efforts to reduce child trafficking and increased fingerprinting, the fact remains that Ireland needs to detach itself from yet more EU demands rather than embed itself further into yet another web of sovereignty-undermining regulations,” she said.
“This is being presented to us as if it were the only asylum show in town, when the reality is precisely the opposite.”
The Deputy said that any attempt to align Irish law with the EU Pact “will be resisted through every parliamentary option available.”
“The Minister needs to explain why we cannot take the same approach as Denmark, a state that opted out of the Pact and which has had massive success in reducing asylum applications,” she said.
“We too had an opt-out, but Cabinet chose yet again to put on full display its fawning and embarrassing sense of inferiority when it comes to anything that emanates from our ‘EU partners.’
“I will also be seeking clear commitments from the Minister and indeed Government that it will not seek to assure people by talking up the legislative approval aspect of this process while at the same time fully intending to guillotine the debate or disallow whole swathes of amendments when the legislation is eventually brought to the Dáil.”
The Department, however, rebuffed Nolan’s argument.
“The arrangements Denmark has in place have no bearing on these considerations,” they said.
“The EU treaty provisions for Ireland and Denmark in relation to the area of migration and asylum law (as approved by referendum) are different.
“Denmark is a Schengen Member State and has highly integrated border measures with the other Schengen states and long established parallel mechanisms for cooperating with all Schengen and EU states on asylum management issues, including obligations to accept the return of asylum applicants who engaged in secondary movement to other states, to cooperate with Eurodac screening and information sharing.”
However, Sinn Féin has criticised the plan, with Matt Carthy TD saying that the regulations will not significantly improve the asylum situation.
“If these regulations applied today, we would still have migrants sleeping on the streets,” he said.
“We would still have the debacles of the hotels being taken over, we would still have this government mismanaging the entire situation. The only addition we would have is potential fines from the European Commission. So the Irish people, as well as having to deal with an incompetent government dealing with these things, would also have to pay the European Commission for the privilege of that incompetence.”
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Thanks for the article (I’ll stop,posting about it now !)
Simple breakdown, in case it isn’t immediately obvious from the above –
Currently Ireland has no obligation to receive migrants arriving at other EU country’s borders.
This Migrant Sharing Pact is designed to change that, forcing member states to take a set quantity of them (it will also, obviously, increase the number arriving – it’s a beacon calling them over)
Ireland has a previously agreed Opt-Out, few if any other E.U. states do (a couple like Hungary, though, have told the e.u. where to go on the issue)
So, despite the fucking mess on our streets, our ruined communities and towns,
Despite the 700 protests held across the country last year and still ongoing
Despite the 80% of Irish people who’ve said that we’ve taken in too many migrants,
This government are planning to throw our right of Opt-Out away and sign us up to this madness
Don’t let them away with it.
Get on to your reps now, spread the word where and however you can.
And…..
https://www.businesspost.ie/news/ireland-to-be-liable-for-more-asylum-seekers-than-most-other-eu-countries-under-new-pact/
“Ireland will be responsible for a larger portion of asylum seekers per capita than nearly all other European countries under new EU plans, the Business Post can reveal.. ”
Sinn Féin have actually gotten Pa Daley to speak out against it –
https://vote.sinnfein.ie/vast-majority-of-the-eus-asylum-and-migration-pact-is-not-in-irelands-interests-pa-daly-td/
Not loud enough, though….
Buddha, are you a SFr?
SF are speaking out of both sides of their mouth. In that link you’ve posted SF say they are opposed to open borders.
This is nonsense. Anyone paying attention to what SF have done and supported in the last few years know that they are lying. They obviously realise they are losing support in the areas where they’d have had no competition from FF/FG but are now losing it due to mass immigration and their failure up-to now to oppose it. Too little, too late. A good journalist would investigate to see if there are any links between current members/former Provo’s and the people smuggling that’s going on across the channel from France into Britain and possibly further on into Ireland. They can’t be trusted, neither can Aontú as Peadar lobbied to bring in Afghans.
Oh no! Please keep posting. Facts are sustenance.
Buddha, do not carry out your threat to stop posting about it, because your posts are brilliant. They are clear. You are not afraid to tell the people the truth, that we can opt out. That should be the first line of every article. Let the people know we can opt out. The government are terrified we might know this. They pretend we have obligations. We don’t. The new buildings are part of this government plan, to give it permanence. Many people do not believe me when I tell them we can opt out. Those on our side are weak. They are partly repeating the government line, but the government line is false, to pretend to us we have no choice. We have opted in every time before. Now is our chance to do the opposite. Buddha, can you explain to them, if Maastricht is giving us this choice, because I have seen the Treaty of Amsterdam mentioned too and now I’m confused. People are not informed because the government are refusing to give clarity to let us know our rights. I am lobbying and talking to everyone I know as well. Most do not quite believe that we can opt out because they do not see it written anywhere. We must keep on lobbying our politicians not to sign. McEntee will fight tooth and nail for us to opt in and is putting her spin on it about the advantages of it. She is trying to sell it her best. She is refusing to reveal her best kept secret, that we can opt out. Keep up the good work, Buddha. Keep posting, telling, keep explaining everywhere. We must be fearless. We must oppose it and opt out.
Send them this –
“The EU’s Asylum and Migration Pact is a mixed bag of seven proposals. Alongside Denmark, we are the only country with the opportunity to remain outside all or some of these EU measures. We should use that ability to opt-out, as is our right”
https://vote.sinnfein.ie/vast-majority-of-the-eus-asylum-and-migration-pact-is-not-in-irelands-interests-pa-daly-td/
Send/Post it everywhere
Not an endorsement of the party, but I appreciate that Daly said it. Email your SF tds/councillors, cc the email to marylou and pearse doherty, and ask them to state the same thing – Louder, where it will be heard.
Unless every one of them posts it on their s.m., this can’t be taken at face value from Sinn Féin. But if they do, credit where it’s due (colossal doubts remain – they’ve a long way to go)
There are articles appearing everywhere over the past two days, newstalk, etc., saying that if Ireland doesn’t sign upmwe have to “go it alone” , be left out, etc.
What they don’t say is that this means we wouldn’t have to take a single migrant arriving at the EU’s borders when – not ‘if’, fuck that – we Opt-Out.
This goes back to just after the locdowns across europe, when the ships from the med ramped up again.
It was spoken about then – several other countries were obliged to receive a portion under a preliminary agreement to the pact, Ireland was not.
Under the Opt-Out – which applied to any such migration-sharing agreements that preceded the pact.
Varadkar breached this, and agreed to Ireland taking an initial 80 migrants from a particularly large boat arrival.
This kept happening, and I suspect that is the source of all the somalis and others who’ve arrived over the past 24 months – they arrive together, en masse, probably on chartered flights (the georgians and albanians are the one flying over independently, destroying/hiding their id).
So the model of what they’re going to do is already being trial-enacted. And ramped up. Migration from Africa and the M.E. will be ramped up. Nobody from those regions will be refused leave to remain.
Look at the translations of how the process will be implemented in the translations of the O’Gorman tweet and govt. White Paper on asylum (you’ll find it in the comments under the video of gript’s questioning O’Gorman at the press conference here, on this site, from this week). This is an assembly-line to make permanent everybody who would arrive here under the terms of the Pact.
Send the Daly quote to the doubters. Watch out for sleeveens deliberately using doubt to derail those facts, but politely tell others not to be so defeatist.
Tell them to email their reps, and demand they back up what Daly has said, whatever party they belong to. CC the party leaders – it helps show them the pressure we’re gonna put them under and prevents the tds/councillors putting it in a box.
Opt-in = we take migrants directly from those arriving at greece, italy, etc.’s borders, or pay the EU tens of thousands for every one of the e.u. allocated percentage we don’t take.
Or……
OPT-OUT =
We don’t take them – the E.U. aren’t allowed to ship/fly them to Ireland and we can refuse entry to any who try to arrive here on their own initiative via the e.u. (or anywhere else)
Send your answer to this conundrum to –
firstname(dot)surname @ oireachtas.ie
AND – the M.E.P.s, who have two months left in their jobs and are depending on your votes
☆☆☆☆☆☆
Here are listed the email addresses for all of them –
https://dublin.europarl.europa.eu/en/meps
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Please write to every td senator MEP councillir in your electoral area. Please also note petition on Change.org
Buddha, the pact has been signed. Has it?
No – the cabinet have decided that they want Ireland to sign up to it.
But not a foregone conclusion- it won’t happeng til sometime in April, has already been criticised in the Dáil and will undoubtedly come up again when they’re back after Easter.
The articles that are out at the moment on it are just refering to the position of the cabinet.
ALSO (sorry for the caps, but this is also important)
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It can’t come into effect without legislation, which has to be signed off on by both the Dáil and Seanad
“By opting in, the Irish Government will commit to introducing a programme of legislation that will replace the current International Protection Act by 2026.
The new legislation will soon come before the Oireachtas Justice Committee, and then to both houses of the Oireachtas before it is signed off.”
So there’s a vote.
Uneasy tds in ffg getting a hard time from their constituents…. MEPs fearing elctoral wipe-out (no parties will want to lose these seats in europe), and SF have already come out against it….
Absolutely can be stopped but not without effort and movement, no delays, and persistence.
mail your reps.
Just needs traction to stop it.
Email Pa Daley and Marylou and your SF m.e.p.s, in one email.
Thank Daley for his statement and ask Marylou why she hasn’t herself, as SF leader, stated the same thing in a prominent manner as it is such an important agreememt and so far-reaching in its consequences.
End by politely stating that this is a deal-maker or deal-breaker in terms of how you’ll vote at the european elections in June, (and other elections)
Who the hell asked us about this exactly? Last time i checked a democratic government was to do the will of the people, not the will of the globalists. All i’ll say is god help the scum without their garda protection when they get voted out.
So if we refuse to take in even more asylum seekers from other EU countries that say they have to many we will have to pay millions to the EU instead, and our incompetent government have already said they intend to sign up for this nonsense. If only it was possible to sack a government for gross incompetence.
No payment to EU. We have the option to remain outside already, without doing anything further.
Yes, Mary is right – the ‘payment’ option only comes into play in the event of an ‘opt-in’
Opt-in = we take migrants directly from those arriving at greece, italy, etc.’s borders, or pay the EU tens of thousands for every one of the e.u. allocated percentage we don’t take.
Or……
OPT-OUT =
We don’t take them – the E.U. aren’t allowed to ship/fly them to Ireland and we can refuse entry to any who try to arrive here on their own initiative via the e.u. (or anywhere else)
Send your answer to this conundrum to –
firstname(dot)surname @ oireachtas.ie
AND – the M.E.P.s, who have two months left in their jobs and are depending on your votes
☆☆☆☆☆☆
Here are listed the email addresses for all of them –
https://dublin.europarl.europa.eu/en/meps
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
ye helen and ff/fg/g mafia year pi’s…..g in wind with this also , come next general election Irish politics will be turned on its head
First time Schengen has ever been used in this discussion…. someone’s tried to find differences between Ireland and Denmark so we continue to kowtow to Europe.
In that picture, McEntee looks completely brain-washed!
We have one ultimate option… a referendum on a IREXIT!
Denmark is still in the EU and has simply told the EU that they are aiming for ZERO asylum seekers.
The issue is not with the EU. The issue is with Irish politicians placing Irish citizens needs second to that of other people.
In earlier comments, regarding migration I’ve used the word existential to describe the predicament of Ireland — as this piece makes perfectly clear (thanks to Gript for publishing it), that was not an exaggeration.
The developments described here are not a surprise — they represent a continuation of the course long charted for Ireland by its political leadership.
Unfortunately, it is more than just a matter of new leadership in Ireland, although that is essential — the EU itself is now cancerous, a globalist front masquerading as a European body, and I don’t know why more people cannot see that — in order to save itself from demographic destruction, Ireland will also have to either leave the EU, or chart a confrontational course vis-a-vis the EU, similar to Orban in Hungary — do Irish politicians, or any prospective candidates in Ireland, have the stomach for that?
I think you’ve distilled the situation perfectly
The EU is a US vassal and carries out US agendas under coercion, The Ukraine conflict demonstrates this clearly..
The destruction of Germany’s gas supply from Nordstream by the US/ NATO demonstrates the coercion.of its pretend ally.
The root cause of the Mass Migrant flows are the result of US wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, SYRIA ,Somalia and Sudan. et al
The US/NATO destruction of Libya and Ghadaffi blew the gates off Africa and allowed the Mass flow of illegal migrants into Europe.across the Meditteranean.
The Net Zero Climate Change Racket and De industrialisation .caused by high energy costs is destroying the Agricultural food supply and productive economies of Europe,
The US will be the power that benefits from the destruction of European economies, as the only suppllier of Industrial and Agricultural products..
The obvious route for survival of Europe is to turn East and join its natural geographic trading partners of the BRICS+ and escape the Hegemonic power of the US.
Here here.
We have existing laws that just need to be followed & enforced by our government. There is absolutely no need to sign up to this, as an island nation we shouldn’t have any refugees coming here as each so called refugee would have to pass through multiple safe countries to get here . The only people coming here should be invited in by us (which is what we’ve seen from previous government campaigns to get Ukrainians here & own door adverts from O’Gorman in multiple languages ). Look at the pact in conjunction with O’Gorman’s white paper on quadrupling the number of IP applicants. This pact is a Trojan horse for government facilitated illegal immigration from countries whose cultures are incompatible with our values of freedom, respect & law & order. They seek to cause chaos & division amongst the people to allow them to usher more authoritarian controls. They know the people don’t want this & want to see IP applicant numbers massively reduced , yet they are celebrating Roderick’s plan to quadruple the numbers .
I had hoped things would be different after the referendum & varadkars resignation.
We are however left with no choice but to vote Irish freedom party , independents & Aontú in the June local & European elections.
Ask the Central African republic if we can build a landing stripe/ airport there.Give them one billion a year and send every single migrant,refugee and former refugee there.
As for the muslims,ask Assad the same about Syria.He would only be delighted to have some of the syrian traitors back there.
Ask the taliban and send back the Afganis to their brothers.
Lets repatriate these guys.Ireland has enough enrichment of the African and middle east slum kind.
If they claim to be running from oppressive regimes then why do they act like the oppressors here.
time to legalise poteen making, Support local industry 👍
Ukranians have stopped coming because of the reduced freebies. Do the same here. Stop inticing people. NO MORE!
This nonsense about a migration pact is irrelevant. Anyone can freely enter this country illegally and stay forever, paid for by the people of Ireland. This is an undeniable fact. Pacts, agreements, laws etc means nothing when you have a Political class who are quite willing to allow the law to be broken and their society wrecked. The weak, feeble politicians must be replaced with responsible politicians to rescue this country and stop it becoming a failed state.
The second part of your post is absolutley true.
But the Pact is absolutely relevant. It creates a legally binding structure to take the migrants directly from europe’s southern and eastern borders.
Yes, this is already happening, but the argument here has been all about laxity at our own, Irish borders (which is really just a distraction, because many/most of the non-ukranians who’ve arrived in the past 24 months were transported here through sneaky arrangements with varadkar and the e.u.)
i.e., they are pretending they are getting here on their own initiative.
If Ireland opts in to the pact, they no longer have to pretend.
It will be – “These people have the right to be here under the terms of the pact……this is what we signed up to “.
Nobody – this really needs to be emphasised – NOBODY arriving at the borders of the E.U., the shores of Italy, Greece, Malta… has a right of entry or claiming asylum in Ireland.
Nothing in our existing treaties commits Ireland to sharing the burden of arrivals of other member states.
If we opt in, that changes.
If we opt out, the problem doesn’t miraculously cease, but the arguments and lies from the govt. about how the ones who get here arrived won’t hold water much longer.
Don’t fall into fatalistic thinking . This can be stopped.
There was a lot of defeatist thinking before the referendums, and I know that was a matter of ballot; but people don’t realise the power they have, and how beholden the politicians are to your vote.
Send an email to your candidates and the party leaders.
Look at SF’s U-turn – they’ve gotten Pa Daley to come out and say Sinn Féin are “opposed to open borders” and call for the Opt-Out.
“Sinn Féin are opposed to open borders. We believe that Ireland needs a well-managed migration system – one that is fair, efficient and enforced. Alongside Denmark, we are the only country with the opportunity to remain outside all or some of these EU measures. We should use that ability to opt-out, as is our right.”
If you have enough will to raise your concerns on here, please consider emailing your reps – the address details are in the comments above – and sending this on to your circle or sharing it where you can, contact local media, tell some of the protest groups via their s.m. pages….etc.
Email your SF reps and MEPs – https://dublin.europarl.europa.eu/en/meps
Cc Marylou in the email, ask them both to re-emphasise Pa Daley’s call for the Opt-Out and for Marylou to do so on a prominent stage.
The MEPs need to get back in – Marylou needs SF meps in the european parliament.
Ffg will see this is an issue where they’ll lose out to sf if she does so….etc.
Domino effect.
From little acorns…. !
True – the whole Brexit issue was about this issue and Britain got migrants stacked up more than ever outside any agreements made when they pulled out.
The will of their electorate was simply ignored by the estab parties.
The same here, they’ll ignore everything that ~ 80% of the people don’t want.
When we finally get a government after 100 years,these terms can be reversed – look on the bright side 🇮🇪
Pacts mean a hell of a lot. They mean the government is organising them in their thousands and flooding them in on top of us here. That’s why we have the massive protests in our towns. Our corrupt government are people trafficking. A lesser stream come in across our land border because SF do not allow it to be controlled. Everyone is afraid of SF. They could take out their guns again, you know. But the organised plane loads coming in would stop, if there was no pact. Only a pervert would want the plane loads of migrants to continue on top of tiny Ireland. A freak show for freaks watching another’s pain.
We have not yet signed a pact and we are inundated with so called asylum seekers.My point is we have laws that are being broken and our politicians are quite happy about this. If we continue with the same politicians then we are doomed, pact or no pact.
Tighten up welfare
the damage has already been done to this country. it’ll just get worse unfortunately and the Leo Varadkars of this world will walk off unaccountable and as smug as ever. That’s what gets me.
Damage limitation at least. Never give up, never give in
So now we know why they wanted to know how many bedrooms we had in the census.
Imo a better option would be to s
Enforce the Dublin Convention and after the huge influx of undocumented illegals has been returned to sender, agree on a small number of programme actual refugees, who have been processed off shore, could be accepted
Also, utilise the network of Irish diaspora to disseminate factual information e.g. tent city
While everyone is being distracted with the shit show….
Things are beginning to hot up …the 8 April eclipse is the one to watch …false flag on the way …maybe they are going to introduce their alien attack or antichrist watch watch there are other things happening,these Globalists are too far forward not to give up….
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xrNsjTsnd9oF/
Ignore this person – he’s a troll that appeared here a few days ago on a story about trannies ( the ‘joanne’ moniker is his little snigger at the story where the dickhead lgbt police group in scotland had invented an ‘anti- trans’ character called Joanne after JK Rowling, parodying the author for their workshops)
He went on to call Martina Navratilova a man because she’s a lesbian, and called another woman who had a hysterectomy a man (‘transwoman’)
I’m not sure if the retard is doing it for his own amusement – this ‘character’ he’s doing is meant to be a parody of religious/’anti-vax’, etc. – or if it’s meant to fool people for some other purpose.
A Budda is at it again on about a Satanist called jk Rowling 🤔I was wondering what you were on about the other day when you mentioned me with police,now take your head out of your arse and start doing REAL investigation about what’s really going on in the world or do you not want that info to come out methinks you are the troll because you seem to get very hot an bothered about what I write …which is all truth by the way …prove me wrong ,all these idiots who knock truthers constantly annoy me…anyway you won’t be around much longer as that type of animosity usually comes fro Satanists /vaxxed idiots…
Put away the Tin Hat hon…
You are a troon. Go away you vile misogynistic Pollock.
Well, without looking at the extremist podcasts etc. The ‘normal’ podcasts in the US, are expecting a huge ‘Black Swan event. The Bridge in Baltimore might be a financial one. It cripples the supply chain in that part of the World for 3 years, at least! The authority to check what happened, arrived late, just finish analysing the black-box and the exact two minutes that is needed is missing! The VDR stopped for the critical two minutes! 01:24-01:26. How could any normal person not say… again? The boat was seen to make a change of direction before the energy went out… knee-jerk?… Biden says the tax-payer will rebuild it and pay for it… although… the insurance companies are actually responsible to pay for it! Only when the taxpayer pay, can the deep-state make massive profits on it. Nothing to see here!
The attempts to convince the World that UFOs are real and that there is direct contact, happened in congressional hearings and on all mainstream TV, all last year in the US. Europe just ignored it! They even claimed to have shot some down! There must have been some reason for the nonsense they are feeding us! The Sun eclipse is an American one and there is a point in the US, where last years eclipse crosses this years eclipse in Carbondale. We know that the satanist crazies rely totally on symbolism, and an eclipse is taken as a sign that something disastrous might happen. We all know that the globalists are somehow occult-orientated and religion haters… So, maybe they are planning something? So, I sympathize somewhat with Johanne!
ye J. I am hardcore hillbilly no interest what happens outside the southern premier , more worried about daily survival price of pint of milk🤠
Daily survival will be coming to us all very soon although Im not too worried about that as my trust is in the Lord Jesus Christ,he has already said what is about to happen in his world. True Born again Christians are the real target of satan he is not bothered about the rest as he already has them in his pocket,unless they wake up a believe in and trust the Lord Jesus Christ then they can get out of his tentacles..
Varadkar wanted to carry through the EU plan to cull 200,000 cows in Ireland, because they fart! What do you think that will do to your daily survival price of milk and cheese? Maybe there will soon be von der Leyen’s ‘Insect-cream to replace it?’ Who knows? Will you tell me that these are conspiracy theories.
https://www.econotimes.com/Ireland-May-Cull-200000-Dairy-Cows-To-Achieve-Carbon-Reduction-Targets-1657436
So Johanne there is only two sexes. J K Rowling is a normal human with morals and stands up for basic human rights .
Transgender activists are deeply disturbed individuals, highly dangerous in groups who hate opinions contrary to theirs.
I think you are right about upcoming false flag event though.
” Never forget Twin Towers ,
Forget Tower 7. ”
Never hit by planes , or by tower debris. Small office fires caused free fall .
Obviously controlled demolition.
USA invades innocent countries.
This time worldwide abolition of civil rights , property , speech and compulsory CBDC with digital identity as EU voted in last autumn made compulsory.
Hate speech bill tip of the iceberg.
CERN
If I am not greatly mistaken, and I am open to correction on this point, did Deputy Coveney encourage membership of CERN?