PADDY O’GORMAN: Why homelessness and housing are two different problems

I once saw Pat Kenny of RTΓ‰ break up a brawl between two homeless, drunken men. The year was 1995. At that time, Kenny was presenting a Saturday evening television show called Kenny Live (he had yet to get the Late Late Show gig). Journalist John Drennan, then of the Sunday Independent, had written a book in the form of a fictionalised diary of a man on the dole. Drennan was a guest on Kenny Live and there was a panel discussion in which various lobby groups for jobless and homeless people responded to some of the issues raised in Drennan’s book. Richard Bruton TD, who was a Minister with an economic portfolio in the government at the time, was also on the panel. I was there as part of an invited studio audience.

Also in that invited audience were two homeless men, in their forties, along with their Focus Ireland minders. When it came to their turn to speak, the men explained why they were homeless. It was the fault of the system, the society, the government, the media, the GardaΓ­. One of the men, a Northerner, spoke darkly of how β€œestablishment censorship” was preventing voices such as his from being heard. We all listened politely.

Then, when the television programme was over, Pat Kenny and his team invited us all into a hospitality room. There was drinks, including alcoholic drinks. As much drinks as anyone wanted. There was animated conversation. I think about twenty minutes had passed and I was chatting with Richard Bruton when the table of drinks in the middle of the room was turned over and smashed to the ground in an explosion of broken glass. The two homeless men had fallen across the table and onto the floor, punching each other viciously to the head.

Pat Kenny jumped in and wrenched the men apart, a man on each arm. β€œMen, stop this!”, said Pat. β€œFor me. I’m asking you to stop!” The rest of us in the room looked on, shocked into silence. Pat’s intervention worked. The men’s faces, at first contorted in drunken rage, gradually changed as Pat Kenny’s words sank in and it dawned on the men that they were acting disgracefully. The Focus Ireland people escorted the two men away. We all breathed a sigh of relief.

I still think of that fight every time I hear simplistic pronouncements made on how we can solve homelessness. Those two men had been offered hospitality and they abused it. Their brawl and drunken behaviour was infinitely more enlightening as to the reason for their homelessness than all of the Focus Ireland-approved words they had spoken earlier that evening while on national television.

Those two men were people who I would call chronically homeless , that is, people who will be always prone to end up on the streets, no matter how much accommodation might be available.

Homeless campaigners tell us that there’s 160,000 vacant premises (or some figure like that) in Ireland. So there’s room for everyone and unlimited numbers of immigrants too. The implication seems to be that these vacant premises should just be opened up and people let in to live in them. So how would this work? Will people be expected to pay rent? Or can they just stay for free? And if the latter, why should anyone bother paying for where they live? I’m sure there’s many working couples who are paying a mortgage in far suburbia and commuting daily to say, Dublin City Centre to work, who would dearly love a free city centre apartment but no, there will be nothing free for them. Rent-free living, it seems, is something that is only to be made available for homeless people who don’t work.

In December of 2016 a group of homeless campaigners and artists occupied Apollo House, an empty office block in Dublin City Centre, and opened it up for homeless people. There was enormous public support for this move. People contributed money and food and clothing and blankets and volunteered their time to help. Embedded, approved journalists wrote from inside Apollo House about what great things were being achieved through the occupation and how well things were going for the homeless people staying therein. The occupation organisers asked that all other journalists should respect the privacy of the homeless people living there and not attempt to speak to them, which is why, about three weeks into the occupation, I stood outside Apollo House early one morning to speak to homeless people who were living there.

It was obvious the Apollo House occupation was doomed. Apollo House was conveniently close to the methadone clinic at Pearse Street so I met plenty of people on their way there to get their morning supplies. It was good to have a place to stay, the addicts told me, although they were being kept awake at night by other addicts β€œgoofing”. (Goofing means acting in an unruly, obnoxious way while intoxicated on drugs. I remember once being in the recreation area of the Merchant’s Quay drug project in Dublin and seeing a sign displayed, by order of management, which read β€œNo Goofing”.)

I met a man in his forties from Crumlin in Dublin who told me he was homeless after he had left the British Army and returned to Ireland and was now not welcomed by any of his family. Was this because they were angry at him having joined a foreign army? No, he said, it was because he had β€œblackguarded” everyone who had ever tried to help him as he had only ever cared about getting himself more drink. He seemed a calm, gentlemanly person, I said to him. β€œYou haven’t met me when I have a few drinks down my neck”, was his candid response.

A young man with a rural accent spoke manically about all the wrongs his mother had done him. He was rambling, incoherent and agitated and I had to try for quite a while to lose him. That was an interview that wouldn’t get broadcast.

People spoke to me of the fights and rows, the needles, the theft, the mentally ill people acting manically, and the blood, shit and vomit on the floor in Apollo House, all of which would be entirely typical of what you would expect to find in any homeless hostel, or any building occupied by homeless people, anywhere. In that sense, Apollo House was no different. But what was different was the absence of professional staff to deal with the challenges that providing accommodation for homeless people presents. Apollo House was staffed by sincere, well-meaning volunteers and also by insincere posers who were happy to sing their protest songs outside the building at the start of the occupation but who had no intention after that of seeing to the needs of the homeless people inside. After one month, a court order was got by the owners of Apollo House causing the occupation to end. That put the whole sorry project out of its misery. The posers were off the hook. Now they could walk away, blaming the ending of the occupation on the heartlessness of capitalism, which they did. Dublin City councillor Mannix Flynn had a different take on the occupation. He said: “I found it was deeply exploitative, and that the individuals in Apollo House purporting to represent the homeless were basically exploiting the homeless for their own capital.” I agree with Councillor Flynn.

So what can we do to alleviate homelessness? We increase the supply of accommodation. We build more homes and we remove obstacles to existing vacant properties being made available for rent or sale. All of this is obvious and there are many wise people who are trying to bring these necessary changes about. I have just a few suggestions of my own to add.

First, we should never have got rid of bedsits. (A bedsit is a flat for one person, typically one room that serves as kitchen, bedroom and living room but with bathroom facilities down the corridor shared with other renters in the building.) As a young person, I lived in both bedsits and shared, self-contained flats in the flatlands of Dublin and Cork cities. Bedsits are better. In a bedsit you had your privacy. In a flat shared with three or four other people you have no such privacy. You have to watch what your flatmates want to watch on the telly. You are always in your flatmates’ company. Sure, you don’t have to go down the corridor to the loo as you did when in a bedsit but you don’t have unrestricted access to the bathroom of a shared flat to yourself, either. If, God forbid, I should lose my home some day and need to return to rented accommodation, I hope I would be able to afford a self-contained flat for one person rather than be forced to share with strangers again. It might have been helpful to have still had the bedsit available as a more affordable option.

Next, shared living was a good idea and it should be revived. It was championed a few years back by the then Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy but was reviled by almost everyone else; first by opposition politicians and soon after by government politicians, too, who couldn’t wait to distance themselves from Murphy’s initiative. What was so bad about shared living? Think about it. As a single person, you would have the privacy of your own living room, bedroom and bathroom, so no loo queues to endure. And you would share a dining and food preparation area with the rest of the building if you wanted to cook. That makes the shared area a place to socialise. And a place for romances to begin. Say there is someone who catches your eye and you fancy her (for argument’s sake, please just be a straight man). You don’t have much disposable income as you are paying a lot on rent. Pubs are expensive, and restaurants more so. But in your shared living space, you have a chance to meet and maybe share a meal with this woman. And if the attraction between you both proves mutual, the suggestion of β€œyour place or mine” is eminently realisable. That’s not an option when you’re sharing a flat with three other blokes.

And people are doing a lot of sharing. In my day, flats were cramped, often musty and mouse-infested (you would hear them scurrying around at night). Things seem to me to be no better now. What were once fine old houses are divided into perhaps eight flats, as you will see if you look at how many doorbells there are on houses in Dublin, say, on the Rathmines Road or the western end of the North Circular Road. Basement flats are the worst, in my experience. Mould forms on the wall. Speak to the people renting, mainly workers from South America and Eastern Europe, and you will find that they are sub-letting rooms or occupying beds in shifts. Even if you don’t get to visit these flats, you can get a good idea of just how cramped these places are by looking at the photographs on the property websites. A standard piece of furniture is a couch with a bunk bed over it, likely placed in the corner of a living/dining area. And bathrooms have been shoe-horned into spaces that they were never meant for, with toilets you would need to sit side-saddle on as there’s no room for your leg at the side that is up against the shower.

Shared living would have been a great improvement for people stuck in flats such as these. But I don’t think those housing protestors who opposed shared living ever really cared about the well-being of renters. A common complaint by the housing protestors was that the planned bedrooms in Murphy’s initiative would be no bigger that prison cells. So what? Do those protestors have any idea about the conditions that renters are living in now? I think it would be nice if all renters could have a detached four-bedroomed home with a garden and swimming pool. But that’s not going to happen. Shared living would have made a real improvement in the short-term for people who are now remain stuck in overcrowded, expensive, unhealthy living conditions.

So if we can make enough accommodation available for everyone, by whatever means, will that solve homelessness? No, it will not.

There are five reasons, in my experience, why people end up sleeping rough: drink, drugs, mental illness, gambling, and an unbearable home situation. And even that last reason is usually the result of one or more of the previous reasons on the part of the person who is making the home situation unbearable. Women flee domestic violence. Young people flee the home because of the behaviour of their mum’s new, live-in boyfriend.

Even if there were enough hostel space for everyone, some people will still sleep rough. Rough sleepers will often tell you that they cannot live in hostels because they find them to be too dangerous; there are psychotic people there who may be prone to random violence, or there are drug-dealers and other people in hostels to whom the rough-sleeper owes money. And time and again, when you speak to rough-sleepers, you will find there has been an underlying trauma in their lives since childhood. They were raised in care, or perhaps one or more parent died young through drugs or violence. Rough sleepers have rarely had a childhood with a stable, loving family; rather they have been cared for by the state, directly or indirectly, all their lives. Rough sleepers are people who have had a rotten start in life.

Dedicated professionals in our social services and charity sectors make great efforts to intervene to help chronically homeless people. Rent arrears are written off, allowing the person to start afresh. Decent, sometimes sheltered accommodation is found at an affordable rent. Addiction problems are addressed. Sometimes, people lives are turned around. Sometimes. But then what do you do when, six months after the fresh start has been made, you find that even the modest rent expected from the person is not being paid? And the dodgy boyfriend who led the person into trouble previously is back on the scene and is pleased to have found new, free accommodation to avail of? Soon the neighbours are complaining about anti-social behaviour occurring in the area because of the presence of the person who was placed there by the housing charity.

Everyone deserves a second chance and then maybe a third or more chances. But you can’t just keep bailing out people forever. Working people pay for their accommodation. Rent or mortgage is generally the first bill that working people plan for in the month and then set about budgeting with whatever they have left over. Chronically homeless people expect other people to pay for their accommodation.

Should people who don’t pay for their accommodation have the same right to housing as people who do?

No, they should not.

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Pat Coyne
13 days ago

I rarely come across such precise and honest reporting. This report is an excellent example of a skill I thought was obsolete.

James Gough
13 days ago
Reply to  Pat Coyne

Paddy has a very simple formula. He listens to people in a nob judgemental way and it makes for compelling journalism. Nell McCafferty used to do something similar in her court reports for the Irish Times many decades ago. The idea of listening to ordinary people and reporting the story without spinning it had gone now from journalism.
Gary Kavanagh had exposed what the government knew about the two recent referendums even as they lied to us and said the exact opposite. The main stream media can not bring themselves to cover this story even though it is the most shocking example of bare faced government lying that I can remember.

Declan Hayes
13 days ago

I dont agree with all of this but, at least, you have walked the walk and listened to those who have. The posers you allude to, and there are many of them elected politicians, civil servants and over paid do gooders, have not.

ReaIIrish
13 days ago
Reply to  Declan Hayes

I’d be interested to know what bits you don’t agree with yourself.

I’d be for a very much a tough love approach to many of the homeless people who cause issues mentioned. There is at least one other category of people who are made homeless not mentioned – those evicted for no reason other than the landlord wants to jack up the rent high and put lots of bunks in each bedroom overcrowding the property. The people evicted in these situations don’t always have somewhere to fall back on (and not because they have been a blackguard).

I think maybe locking people up who are drunk/high on drugs and causing problems in public or in accommodation provided for them i.e. a drunk tank type thing; fast-tracked to a drunk tank for 30-180+ days. Provide therapy services and a route back into training/work as part of the exit process. I don’t think these homeless hostels and half-way houses are the best environment for someone who is in recovery and trying to improve their situation. If I ended up on the street I would not stay in one, I’d have my own tent. Absolutely no question about it. In fact, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near other homeless people.

I myself have taken in a homeless person, and had my hospitality abused. Turned up at my door late in the evening and drunk, so I told him I couldn’t help him anymore. Tried to guilt-trip me saying I didn’t care for him. The problem is, he gets free food from soup-kitchens and food-banks. Knows where to find and what other stuff he can get for free (lots of things). His behaviour is enabled every day. If there was no free food source, easy access to alcohol, things may be different.

Yesterday I popped into the supermarket around teatime to get a couple of things. At the entrance to the car-park that leads to the front door was a homeless alcoholic/addict standing facing away from the footpath as I neared. He had his trousers down around his knees and appeared to be trying to defecate while standing upright leaning forward. That was a shock to the senses so I carried on around to the main entrance to the car-park to take the longer route to the super-market door. When I got to the door there was another one of these guys sitting down begging while another stood begging. The guy standing with his hand out had his trousers down around his thighs. It was like the zombie apocalypse. The two guys standing appear to be some of the Governments new arrivals. Not sure about the guy sitting down, possibly Eastern European.

I think things are going to get alot worse before they get better. I do think help with recovery is a good idea. And that lost causes should be de-prioritised for accommodation, supports etc. And the approach for these lost causes should be a continuum of tougher and tougher love moving towards punishment/detention I know of a guy similarly described in the above article who was homeless and given his own flat. Proceeded immediately to run up rent arrears (how this is possible when he gets his rent or most of it paid, I’m not sure). All the cash he receives in social welfare payments goes on booze and drugs. He also begs to top up his income. As far as I’m concerned he should have his flat taken off him and left to sleep on the street. I’d also remove his social welfare payments. I struggle with my bills, yet I’m taxed to pay for him getting drunk and stoned daily. The whole world of street people is a criminal world of petty crime, violence, drug dealing/abuse and so on.

Thomas Sowell describes how social housing (in the States) used to be provided to those who deserved it i.e those trying to improve their lot, working low paid jobs, clean-living, looked after their properties etc. Now, it seems the worst behaviour and the least effort is rewarded.

James Gough
13 days ago
Reply to  Declan Hayes

It’s easy to see that Paddy did not fit in when at RTE. Sensible ideas. The bedsits were scrapped be the Greens the last time they were in government. The damage that party has done to Ireland is incalculable. They were ably assisted by the gombeens in FF and FG.

John Quinlan
13 days ago

Well done PaddyπŸ‘πŸ‘.
As good an article on this subject that I’ve read to date.Too many ngos etc involved for a start.They really have no interest in solving homelessness as they’ll do themselves out of a job.Not allowing bedsits was just wrong.Based on snobbery imo.A quick walk in the area between O’Connell St and Croke pk shows the substandard and imo slum conditions that many hard working immigrants are living in.Great days for the landlords though.

James Dunne
10 days ago
Reply to  John Quinlan

Another cheap convenient shot at landlords, if it’s so great , why are so many getting out , and you all got what you wanted , institutional landlord organisations that charge massive rents . If you had to deal with some of the crap we have to put up with you might not be so flippant with your landlord comment . Also , rent restrictions for 8 years and during inflation, no other sector has had such government intervention and interference

BorisPastaBuck
13 days ago

Well thought out article – sorry to mention the “Elephant in the Room” – the big factor affecting housing – immigration. Anyone else notice that the MSM in this country seems to be lending its ear to the “indigenous” of the Canary Islands – too many tourists in the view of the “indigenous” – possibly those inhabitants are correct – however, no such ear being lent to the small communities around Ireland (and the UK) expected to “receive into their midst” hundreds – in some cases – of “unknowns” ? The average working class Brit who “ends up twisted” in, say Tenerife (and, personally, I’ve never encountered such Brits misbehaving in Tenerife – whatever about one or 2 other Spanish resorts) will have his passport and the police can quickly assess who they’re dealing with. Laughably, the Irish Govt. is inundating many Irish rural communities – that have actually very little experience of even “documented” outsiders behaving badly – with chaps from places like Georgia and North Africa where “social norms” are a few rungs below those of your average, say, London cockney. There’s a special place in Hell reserved for those responsible for this state of affairs !

remembering Easter 1916
13 days ago

if finna gael and finna fail labour social democrats over the years had not starved and reduced or shut down mental health services institutions, hospitals , a&e , housing , child care , road building and maintaining, bus and train services and stations , Ireland would not be in the mess we are in , and million or more non Irish trun in on top that plus hundreds of thousands more on the way and paddy and Mary have no say in the matter, But we can change that at next elections with voting in 80 or more independent local TDs that will repersent the local Irish interest’s, simple ring your TDs and ask the hard questions πŸ‘πŸ’š , don’t vote for TDs like Willie o Dee or Michael Lowry who voted yes for bills but but forgot to read the bills (qute whoors with self interest type’s) remember VOTE like never before for your grandkids future πŸ‘πŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’š

remembering Easter 1916
13 days ago

sorry forgot our brave gardi decaited nurses and patience teachers reduced starved of funding and lot of sections closed down , the present government and previous governments have brought shame on these jobs with low wages and no support for cost of living , remember your vote is grandkids future in our little island called Ireland, together we can make it better with elected TDs that listen to local Irish people and gives them a vote on immigration and hate speech πŸ‘πŸ’šπŸ’š

James Gough
13 days ago

The teachers are all on board with teaching perversion to primary school children. An Garda Siocana had shown a strong disposition to beating up grandmothers for trying to protect their areas. The nurses are no longer renowned for their humanity, the opposite in fact. The Army has been reduced to a joke. Vote the scum out of the Dail by all means but don’t expect the above mentioned representatives of the state to change. The fish rots from the head and the whole rotten edifice of official Ireland is on full display when you compare the treatment dished out to the Irish as against foreign scammers who can’t even spell Ireland. You owe this whole rotten charade no allegiance what so ever, in fact it is your duty to oppose this in whatever way you can. Remove this lot by whatever means necessary.

Pj Curran
13 days ago

Sorry i didnt read the article just the headline….. There not mistakes there policies

ReaIIrish
12 days ago

The mould or damp issue with basement flats is typically due to the addition of cement based render and re-pointing to the exterior brick walls on the outside, and similar changes to the interior of the walls that make them less breathable -these old brick walls were not designed for these modern applications. Add to that, new air-tight floors, modern ‘draft-proofing’ including the removal and blocking up of vents (sometimes done be tenants themselves), the drying of clothes inside on radiators (without opening the windows) and then damp and mould becomes a problem. Gas appliances and the removal of coal fires all contribute to more moisture inside. The reasons for many of these ‘upgrades’ are another conversation i.e. change to diet, much less physical activity, cotton and polyester clothes not as warm and so on – people feel ‘colder’ now.

Presumably the author of this article favours bringing back bedsits so that those homeless people who cause problems can live in them.

I would not want to live in a building with people like that who have cooking facilities in their room – it would be a major fire risk. I have, like the author, lived in bedsits. But with a tiny shared kitchen. Much better in my opinion. I’d much prefer to have a shared kitchen and a private bathroom in this type of situation, for safety, privacy and also hygiene reasons. The shared living arrangement mentioned in the article may be a better alternative for this type of person. But they’d need to be in recovery i.e. not drinking or using drugs.

Is the importation and cramming of South Americans into properties a good development? Something to aspire to and allow to continue? Some people are getting rich off their backs. The landlords (who evict native Irish to replace them with these SA immigrants), the business people who employ them on much lower wages than needed to survive or maintain an anywhere half-decent quality of life, are all seeing their bank accounts fattened while they live well away from them.

Isn’t it strange, back in the time the author is referring to when he lived in bedsits, Ireland wasn’t a ‘rich’ country yet people working in hospitality and other low paid jobs could afford a roof over their head. Now, we are supposedly ‘rich’ and even people with degrees in decent jobs cannot afford or find accommodation. At some point we need to discuss and decide who EXACTLY benefits from Mass Immigration. We have over a million foreigners and this is continually rising. Hotels and apartments blocks going up everywhere and other non-resi buildings repurposed to house immigrants. Housing estates with queues of foreigners for viewings – are Irish people really going to want to joining these queues knowing they’ll be a minority living amongst immigrant neighbours? None of the business people housing or employing immigrants in these conditions, or the developers selling them housing are living as neighbours with them. I’d like to see a move away from the dominance of Developer Led Home Construction and see that those who do build have ‘skin in the game’ i.e they live in proximity to everyone else who is renting or buying these new properties. Things would be very different. For apartment blocks or small housing developments, a co-op or live-in investor model where those who are going to be living in the new homes are also involved in the development of them would change the whole dynamic. For a start, design and optimal sizing would be improved, along with the neighbours having less worries about who exactly is going to moving in next door – a bunch of Somalians or owner-occupiers who they have things in common with.

So what can we do to alleviate homelessness? We increase the supply of accommodation. We build more homes and we remove obstacles to existing vacant properties being made available for rent or sale. All of this is obvious and there are many wise people who are trying to bring these necessary changes about

Hmmm, really? During the building boom/bubble of the 2000’s did homelessness end? How many new homes are being built every year the last ten years? Did many homeless end up getting housed or is this new housing going to house others. Has homelessness increased or decreased in the last 10 years? How about the last 20 years? If we get a massive building boom, who will really end up living in all this extra accommodation that becomes available? Are the South Americans that sleep shifts in their overcrowded rooms going to live in the new builds with the homeless taking their place? Will the building of extra accommodation attract more immigrants to fill said accommodation just like it did in the 2000’s? I’m getting David McWilliam’s vibes off this author, just ‘build build build, innit’.

Does the author have a vested interest? Any connection to FF/FG, bankers or developers? Where does the author live? In the city centre or in a nice small, mature rural village with no housing estates? What exactly does the author have in mind here ” We increase the supply of accommodation. We build more homes and we remove obstacles to existing vacant properties being made available for rent or sale “? Developers building more vast housing estates and tall apartment blocks?
Or allowing native Irish to build a timber cabin on their own land to have a home of their own and avoid homelessness; expanding the size of permitted extensions to make it viable to add a self-contained home as an extension, back/out or up, on an existing house; reprioritising and re-orienting Fast-Track Planning Legislation brought in to favour Big Developers, to individuals/small groups of family’s/friend/neighbours/other like minded people seeking to build on their own site? Removing many of the planning regs for owner occupier homes (maintaining Building/Engineering Safety Control Standards) so they can build faster, more cheaply and a home they (not their neighbours or planning officials) want – of course, certain local covenants can be enacted or agreed upon so a giant dildo shaped house or a 17 storey apartment block doesn’t get built next door to you.

What does the author have to say about native Irish people who are good tenants, not reliant on any handouts, are not addicts/alcoholics/blackguards being evicted from rental accommodation so that landlords can cram in foreigners like the South Americans the author describes and double, triple or quadruple their rental income – some of those native Irish then being made homeless?

David O Gara
13 days ago

Unemployment leads to homelessness as does over employment. We are stuck with the latter now.

Becky
11 days ago

This article takes a narrow view of the current homeless situation in Ireland. What about the record numbers of homeless families, including over 4,000 children? Single parents who simply cannot afford to rent, and cannot afford to work due to the cost of childcare. These people are homeless due to policy failures and a chronic shortage of social housing, and their situation would be resolved if there was an adequate supply of affordable social housing available to rent.
The demographics of homelessness have changed significantly – not all homeless people are homeless due to reasons you have set out, and it is important to recognise that there are structural factors at play.
Rough sleepers are also a very small cohort of the homeless population in Ireland. The majority of those experiencing homelessness are staying in emergency accomodation. Therefore although homelessness and housing are two different problems, they are deeply interlinked, and have become increasingly so in recent years.

remembering Easter 1916
13 days ago

your story is about how finna gael finna fail labour greens social democratis have starved and reduced funds and closed down mental health services , housie building , hospital services , school teacher and nurses training , child care that is why country is in a mess and few million non Irish trun into the mix and hundreds of thousands more on the way with Paddy having no say on the matter,but we can change this with our VOTE at next elections with choosing over 80 independence local TDs that put local people interests first , Simple ring your TDs and councillors Meps and ask the hard questions , make sure there anti immigration not TDs like willie o dee and Michael Lowry (turncoat TDs have voted yes but i never read the bill ha ha ),vote for your grandkids future like never before πŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’š

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