Independent Wexford TD Verona Murphy has called for a referendum on the EU Migration pact, claiming that entering into the pact would “take away” Irish sovereignty. Her comments came ahead of Wednesday’s vote in the European Parliament on several proposals which secured provisional approval from MEPs in December and in February.
In March, Ireland agreed to sign up to the new EU rules which aim to spread out the cost of housing migrants and to overhaul the accommodation system. The government claimed the decision to sign up to the rules agreed by EU governments last December – where countries are assigned a share of arrivals under an expedited border procedure – would accelerate its processes.
It came as Ministers last month set out plans to deliver 14,000 state-owed beds by 2028 to accommodate asylum applicants in an effort to move away from private providers. It comes as it was revealed last week that there has been a 72 per cent increase in the number of people seeking asylum here in the first three months of this year, compared to the same period last year – a rise of more than 2,000 people.
Deputy Murphy was appearing on RTE’s Upfront with Katie Hannon programme on Monday, alongside Fine Gael Senator Barry Ward and Dr Ciara Smyth of the University of Galway.
“To be accurate, it actually takes away our sovereignty in dealing with migration if we actually enter into this pact,” Murphy said when asked about the EU pact. The Independent said that “nobody knows anything about this pact,” adding that the lack of discussion was “not good enough.”
“[…] We already have two agreements in place, which were not put before the people, and that has been established through a PQ. Under Article 29 5.2 of the Constitution, where there is a pull on the public purse, it is supposed to be put before the Dail. They haven’t been to date, and this is a pact that nobody knows anything about,” she continued.
“I’m an elected representative. I haven’t actually been involved in any of the negotiations. It’s proposed to be discussed just in front of the Justice Committee for which [Senator Barry Ward] chairs, and I don’t believe that is good enough on behalf of the people who elected me,” Deputy Murphy said.
“I think it should either be through a referendum or at the very least through primary legislation,” she told Hannon. “We shouldn’t even be considering doing something of this nature that interferes with our sovereign right to deal with migration as an issue for Ireland, an island nation, which has very differing requirements to that of mainland Europe when it comes to migration.”
Asked about the need for cooperation from other European countries, Murphy replied: “But that hasn’t worked thus far. If you look at the Dublin convention, I mean, the requests – although we can’t gain information as to how many requests are made under Dublin 3 – to take back people who have already applied for protection status in other countries, we don’t have the information.
“I think, primarily, for me, this government needs to understand that this is an issue for the people. The people that I’m speaking to, and I’m running 12 candidates as an alliance in Wexford, we have traversed the whole county a number of times in the last month. People want an election; they believe this government has lost the mandate of the people, and they do not have the backing of the people to enter into this pact.”
Senator Barry Ward accused Murphy of making a “very misleading statement” about Ireland’s sovereignty of the State’s ability to deal with immigration.
“The reality is that this pact gives us options,” Ward said. “In no way does it detract from the sovereignty of this country.”
Responding, Verona Murphy said that the “only option is that it is not mandatory to opt in.”
“I think we should put it to the people,” she said. “It’s mandatory, it’s obligatory.”
Dr Smyth also challenged Murphy, stating: “The sovereignty question has already been disposed of. We are already a part of the common European asylum system. This is a reform of the common European asylum system, and we do get to choose whether to opt in or not.”
“But those agreements haven’t been agreed by the people, and if you look at Article 29 5.2, it tells you that they have to be put to the Dail in order for them to be passed if there is a pull on the public purse. That hasn’t happened. And actually, there is a constitutionality issue in relation to those agreements,” she said. “And it’s only rising now.”
Smyth did tell the programme that the pact “is quite dense, and not incredibly transparent.”
“It is an incredibly dense and untransparent document, I would say,” she said.
Asked if she was impressed with the government’s proposals to tackle immigration, the TD responded, “Not at all.”
“There is no point to immigration if we don’t have integration,” Murphy said, adding: “So ultimately the people who are now in IPAS centres, the aim would be that when they are granted asylum – and if they are granted asylum – that they then would be eligible for housing.”
The TD said it was a problem that Ireland currently has “over six and a half thousand now Irish citizens still with the IPAS system,” as she blasted “completely a lack of planning” on behalf of the government.
“Firstly, we have no accommodation. We don’t have it for anybody. We don’t have it for ourselves, we don’t have it for international protection applicants. We don’t have it for the refugees.”
“That, fundamentally, is a failure of government. If we had accommodation, this wouldn’t actually be a discussion at all.”
The TD, originally from Wexford, said that villages in the county were struggling, and that businesses in places including Fethard-on-Sea were “suffering greatly” due to a lack of accommodation in the holiday village.
“I think secondly, when people are looking for services – I appreciate what that lady said from Cork and Clonakilty – the reality is that the services are as much a part of the integration. I come from County Wexford, and we have a very rural village in Hook Head and Fethard-On-Sea.
“I know that the businesses are suffering greatly within the village of Fethard-on-sea. It’s primarily a holiday village of summertime that has had over 300 refugees in that village for the past two years. The businesses now are missing that accommodation on which to thrive under tourism. We have no other accommodation. One of them is actually on the verge of closing down.”
She also pointed to Rosslare, saying protests there centred around issues dealing with “legitimate planning.”
“Rosslare, which is what you would call a protest – but it’s a different type of protest – this protest is about legitimate planning. And there were exemptions brought in with regard to buildings, but we had a nursing home that was granted planning in Rosslare, a village and a community of about 1600 people who already accommodate two IPAS centres and refugee accommodation to the tune of almost 400 people,” the Wexford TD added.
She claimed that the government wasn’t “getting on top of” problems, telling host Hannon: “Ultimately the planning issues are still there.”
“Putting an extra 400 international protection applicants into a community where there [are] ultimately no jobs, there’s no means to get to jobs through the public transport system, those services don’t exist.
“If you can put 400 people into a community where you can’t get planning for a one-off house, there is something fundamentally wrong, and that is where the angst is coming from people. Their children are leaving the country because they can’t be housed. They’re emigrating.”
Asked where she would place IPAS applicants, Murphy said the capital could be a solution.
“We have lots of places in Dublin,” she said. “The hospital, for instance, that the HSE is about to sell off, can accommodate up to 500 applicants. The reality is that’s within a hub of where we can integrate, where we can provide jobs. [Where] the services are on the ground.”
“There’s no sense that Ireland is overrun, or that Ireland is full,” Dr Ciara Smyth told the programme, but added: “There is a problem about regulation, there is a problem about accommodation.”
The programme also heard from local people, including a young mother from Roscrea who had taken part in protests against IPAS centres in the Tipperary town. Independent election candidate Micheál Frain told the programme that Ballaghaderreen, which was been the scene of continued protests, “could have been a beacon for how to do integration in this country but the services have not [been] delivered to our town.”
Frain accused the government of not delivering on the services promised to the town, adding: “We are living proof in Ballaghaderreen that these services have not been delivered to our community […] we have just been let down time and time again.”
"Ballaghaderreen could have been a Beacon for how to do integration in this country but the services have not delivered to our town"
Micheál Frain independent candidate in the local elections #RTEUpfront pic.twitter.com/4hC2TU0Q96
— Upfront with Katie Hannon (@RTEUpfront) April 8, 2024
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Twin Trees Hotel, Ballina Co Mayo have now sold out. Preparing for over 300 IPAS. That was the last hotel in Ballina that was exclusively available for paying guests.
Absolutely shocking what’s going on.
Donegal completely planted out of it too.
Verona Murphy was fantastic on the show. Fingers crossed for a new swarth of elected representatives who will turn things around.
how are Irish people not going to Dublin protesting this government about our grandkids future and yet trans rights and Hama’s gets huge crowds,finna gael finance minister noonan gave Ireland away to vulture funds back in ,2013 .next elections are last swing of the dice for Ireland for Irish 👍
First up, contact all Irish MEPs in Brusselas TODAY
If, as I fear, it passes, it has to be ratified by the Oireachtas
So next contact all TDs and Senators
Remember 8 June MEPs and and councillors will be looking fir your vote. Please remind them
After that, Lisbon got passed with put Out, so if this is disregarded can we take a class action?????
we need VISIBILITY for every County on who stands for anti immigration at EU and Local ELECTIONS in June 2024 and up and coming General Election ,our Irish forefathers battled for 900 years of British killing ,inslavement and starving of Irish and now we giving away Ireland to Indians and arabs and anything non irish.we are now interning final years of Ireland as we knew it , the blue shirts with finna fail has sold Ireland out
Well, tell them Now
Contact all Irish MEPs tiday @ europarl.eu
Anne do we know when the ratification peocess is? Yes we should contact everybody but when did they ever listen to us? Remember the 75%😲
the trans club here have no support and couldn’t get the numbers to constitute anything approaching a crowd.
Your spot on with everything else !
What sovereignty. We are not a sovereign nation. We are a vassal state.
this government is creating a civil war atmosphere with flooding Ireland with half the world no vetting i.d. resources nothing ,just bulldozers prefabs no permission from locals only promotion videos how life is must better for paddy and Mary in Australia
It will break into a civil war eventually. Of course, it will. Nobody dares mention it. The government is creating the conditions.
“There is no point to immigration if we don’t have integration,” Murphy said, adding: “So ultimately the people who are now in IPAS centres, the aim would be that when they are granted asylum – and if they are granted asylum – that they then would be eligible for housing.”
Is she advocating for this or just explaining the current process? Sounds to me like she is advocating this. So, vote for Verona Murphy if you want more Africans, more Muslims more refugees from all over the world.
People championing her recently here need to pay close attention to what she is saying. This has been my fear for a while. We’ll get candidates or sitting TD’s who we think are going to reverse the damage that has been done but really people like her are just making enough of the right noises to sway people away from true Nationalist candidates, all while maintaining the status quo.
“If you can put 400 people into a community where you can’t get planning for a one-off house, there is something fundamentally wrong, and that is where the angst is coming from people. Their children are leaving the country because they can’t be housed. They’re emigrating.”
She is starting to understand, not quite there yet. Or is just making enough if the right noises for her local voter base to support her. She still wants integration. She wants more ‘housing’ to for asylum seekers, IPA’s or refugees.
There’s a flicker of acknowledgment. But it’s my belief, we should not be putting our hopes in the likes of Verona Murphy. I’m open to persuasion. Maybe she and the likes of her can be useful in creating an Irish First National Alliance to gain power to then make the changes we need to. Maybe she’s really savvy and understands politics better than anyone and knows she cannot say what she really think out loud for fear of coming across as or be painted as extreme by the Government and the Media.
Asked where she would place IPAS applicants, Murphy said the capital could be a solution.
“We have lots of places in Dublin,” she said. “The hospital, for instance, that the HSE is about to sell off, can accommodate up to 500 applicants. The reality is that’s within a hub of where we can integrate, where we can provide jobs. [Where] the services are on the ground.”
Hmmm. Just dump them in Dublin or away from her. She can live out her days in peace unaffected then. She says people want an election. I don’t think we’ll benefit from an election at all at the moment. We won’t get real change. The Government, and the FF/FG/SF parties may get a kicking but we don’t appear to have a strong and organised National Alliance yet. It’s too disjointed. I think after the summer there will be alot more of the public adopting what may be considered an ‘extremist’ position in relation to asylum seekers and to immigration as a whole (though that may take longer).
Then there’s this – Independent election candidate Micheál Frain told the programme that Ballaghaderreen, which was been the scene of continued protests, “could have been a beacon for how to do integration in this country but the services have not [been] delivered to our town.”
Frain accused the government of not delivering on the services promised to the town, adding: “We are living proof in Ballaghaderreen that these services have not been delivered to our community
So not offering any real change at all. Is this who Gript think we should support? I have heard others in the Nationalist Movement (without a fancy media website platform) refer to Gript as ‘Grift’.
I’m beginning to understand where that sentiment is coming from.
Quickly processing asylum applicants in an efficient asylum-adjudication process, and policing our airports to stop the strategy of document destruction/concealment should have priority for resources. Integration resources should be confined to those who have been found to have credible grounds for asylum.
BTW, I have no problem whatsoever with legal immigration and the people who come here on work and study visas. In fact, one of my arguments is that the wholesale abuse of the asylum and international protection system – and our failure to take effective action to combat asylum-abuse is poisoning the welcome for legal and necessary immigration.
” BTW, I have no problem whatsoever with legal immigration and the people who come here on work and study visas ”
I can see why someone gave you a downvote, Peter. You don’t get it either. Britain voted to leave the EU. It wasn’t the barristers and bankers in London that voted for that. It was the ordinary people who have felt ignored for so long. London being only a third native white British now. Other English cities are close to if not already minority English aswell. And those that aren’t yet are sufferring the consequences of mass immigration and are not happy. Despite voting to leave the EU, the Tory Government ignored the electorate and ramped up legal immigration to record highs today.
“Integration resources should be confined to those who have been found to have credible grounds for asylum.”
– you mean for people like the guy who carried out the Sligo beheadings, Josef Palani and his family. Or the Abedi family – you know the ones who were given refuge in England, and after the father and sons returned to Libya to fight with a Jihadi group, came back to England with one of the brothers going on to blowing up the Arianna Grande concert attended by lots of children. No, we are going to have a Zero Asylum policy. Of course, people like you will consider this an extreme position for us to hold. While we consider your position an extremely reckless one that endangers Irish lives. You and others like you are welcome to go off to Africa or elsewhere if you want to do good and volunteer in refugee camps and what have you – just not using our money.
A great many Irish people, well read and well off types, are completely oblivious to the state of things in Britain and also across Europe. Maybe you are not oblivious.. Maybe you are ok with the extremely (random) violent attacks. It was reported on Gript this week of another attack by a Syrian on a 4 year old girl in Germany. There was also the report of the young pregnant woman who was murdered by her Somalian partner in Sweden. The majority of attacks are never reported. Maybe you are ok with the low level intimidation. The low-key expansion of Islam and the intimidation of any European natives that resist it. Aside from that there is the low-key intimidation from non-Muslim ethnic groups. I can give many examples but it would just make this already long comment too long altogether.
Work and study visas are abused. Students who’d have picked up part-time jobs in the past in shops and all sorts of other jobs etc are overlooked by many employers. Irish people are being overlooked (if they’ve not already been evicted) by landlords who want to house those immigrants taking those jobs. Overcrowding their rental properties, getting higher rental incomes and more compliant (read don’t complain about poor conditions) tenants.
I can see why you’ve been on here advocating for what you have. You’re like Michael McDowell back in the 2004, who’s motivation for the anchor babies Referendum was to stave off the threat of the ‘Far-right’. And now look at where we are.
“legal and necessary immigration” – oh, it’s the old wooly legal and necessary line. You forgot to say they do ‘de jobs de Irish won’t do’ and ‘They’re going to pay our pensions’.
We , the so-called ‘Far-right’ aren’t planning on putting anyone into gas chambers. We just want a country that puts us, the Native Irish, first. We aren’t going to deport every single last foreigner, but we will reduce the population of foreign descent down to a sensible and manageable sub 5%. More like 1-3%. And keep it there.
I know I won’t persuade you. I know how you think. You’ll be the fella wringing his hands when one of your refugee pets walks into a concert at Pairc ui Caoimh and sets off a bomb killing lots of children saying how terrible it is. But you won’t change your mind, for to do so would be admitting culpability. Lawyer Clemens Ladenburger, despite losing his daughter Maria in an horrific killing by a refugee, couldn’t bring himself to admit that the immigration and refugee policy of his beloved EU had anything at all to do with his daughters death. God rest her soul.
Much of what you suggest you would do is appalling and criminal under the law of the land. Serious crime among the portion of the resident population not born on this island is statistically just about where its numbers would suggest it should be. Minor crime – particularly of the quality of life eroding anti-social variety, is almost wholly a domestic partiality.
The only people on this sainted isle who have walked into buildings and committed mass-murder with explosives are very home-grown, and many were given an amnesty for their atrocities under the Good Friday protocols.
There is an overwhelming welcome for legal immigration, and our hospitals and hospitality industry would not function without them. The issue for normal human beings with normal human sensibilities is solely illegal immigration, and in particular, asylum abuse. Sorry if this disappoints you.
There is nothing appalling or criminal about having a tight border/immigration policy and putting Irish people first. I actually haven’t made any specific suggestions, you’ve misrepresented what I said. Just the broad idea that we want to reduce our very high % of foreign population and that Irish people should be the ones getting preferential treatment within their own country. There may be some EU agreements we need to withdraw from but we’ve no obligation to treat all and sundry from all over the world on equal terms as the people native to our country. It may appall your sensibilities and that doesn’t surprise me.
Our hospitals and hospitality businesses survived just fine without mass immigration, and the current destruction of hospitality businesses has happened while mass immigration, legal and illegal, has been ramped up. As for hospitals – more and more reports are coming out of complete incompetence and then there’s the most prolific rapist Ireland’s ever seen that had been working within nursing homes with Irish people at their most vulnerable period of their lives.
“Some Irish people planted bombs years ago so it’s only fair for us to be allowed to bring in terrorists and let them live among us – and shur, who’s going to make me my morning cappuccino otherwise”
Ireland is OUR country, not for you and some select elites to decide to sell it to the highest bidder (property) or the ones who’ll accept the lowest pay (hospitality workers) at the expense of Irish people. You believe it’s ok to import foreigners, while at the same time displacing Irish people and forcing them out of the country. Importing foreigners, giving them the vote, evicting Irish from their rental properties so either you or your pals can make more profit while the Irish abroad are disenfranchised. Your ilk have been able to get away with this for many years now. It’s coming to an end.
” The issue for normal human beings with normal human sensibilities is solely illegal immigration, and in particular, asylum abuse ”
Trying to paint those who disagree as not ‘normal’ or ‘unhinged’ just because we are not going along with your Ponzi scheme. Many of us realise the threat of legal immigration, perhaps you don’t, or simply don’t care.
That’s an unbelievable response, your points are as accurate as you can get.You can’t be half in/half out or be pussyfooting around it when it comes to this issue.
I think there’s alot of luke warm politicians either jumping ship or jumping on the bandwagon since this issue took off
For me, you’re either in or out. You’re either sovereign independent Irish or globally genetically modified Irish
I know what I am.
I don’t own a square metre of property other than the home I live in. You are the one who raised the moniker “unhinged”. Well, you certainly hit the nail on the head!
How do you intend to “reduce the population of foreign descent” in the way you describe without breaking the law of the land? I’d better hope you never get a whiff of power because I have a grandparent from Scotland. For that matter, my sister’s children are half French. Do you intend putting them in cattle trucks and dumping us in the sea, or are you going to apply the Nuremburg Rules to decide if we are fit to breath the Fior Gael air of Ireland?
Everything you allege is factually false or wildly distorted. You are a very sick puppy!
The Irish are not puppies, you half bred.
Our hospitals would not function without legal immigration, says the gobshite. Our own had to flee. We want our own nurses here, who studied a broad curriculum up to Leaving Cert before their training, not those with third world training. You want Ireland to hit rock bottom faster, with the installation of the third world.
So, as long as they’re legal, you want to take in the whole world to replace the Irish. Look around you, what do you see? Black and brown and spot the paddy. But that’s not enough for you. You want the Irish vanished.
Matt 10;16 “wise as serpents, gentle as doves”
I can’t stomach the 2 Kerry “migrant landlords” in the Rural Indep. Group of TD’s, but we will use them FOR OUR (IRELAND’S) BENEFIT, ie abortion etc.
Same with VMurphy, SKeoghan, Aontu etc.
I will only trust Nationalist Ireland politicians and candidates with a proven record (support but keep an eyes on them too…National Party???)
Integration is an underhand word for planting Ireland. My definition of integration is getting all the Irish home who had to flee. Give them the housing the fakes are occupying. Fakes out. Ireland for the Irish.
Kick out every single asylum scammer now. Elect people who will do it.
71 Thousand have signed a petition organised by Niall Mc Connell
Some general comments on the programme:
Senator Barry Ward had some nerve accusing Deputy Murphy of misleading comment when she raised the issue of soverignty. He was also completely incorrect in his accusation. All EU legislation and treaties are an infringement of our soverignty. However, subject to certain safeguards and opt-outs we accepted such an infringement when we voted to join the EU and voted again to accept its amending treaties. But we decided to retain soverignty over third country immigration, and it is this soverignty that the EU Immigration Pact would infringe. Leaving aside the ‘money-bill’ issue which Deputy Murphy raised, it would seem to me that this immigration pact in materially infringing an opt-out the people of Ireland voted for would require another referendum before we can constitutionally sign-on.
Professor Smyth, the migration-studies academic from Galway was allowed get away unchallenged with her explaination for asylum-seekers arriving here without documentation. She repeated all the false canards which the Irish Refugee Council and other migrant NGOs endlessly repeat without a whit of supporting evidence. If this so-called migration expert had bothered to ask the Gardai or immigration personnel she would have been put right about the misinformation she spouted.
There are no unsafe-country departure-points for flights to Ireland. Moreover, it is impossible to board a flight to Ireland without documentation identifying the traveller and his or her country of origin. This documentation has to be genuine (or a very high-quality and expensive forgery) to get past the automatic data-readers at the boarding desk. It is rubbish to say that people who cannot get documentation because they are somehow prevented by circumstances or oppressive regimes from accessing passports have no option other than to travel without documentation. The undocumented cannot actually get onto flights. Period. The Gardai believe that those arriving without documentation have in almost every case boarded using genuine documentation and disposed of it or concealed it before presenting themselves at the immigration desk at Dublin Airport. Another untruth we hear from the migrant NGOs is that traffickers travelling with their migrant clients collect their documentation from them en-route. This fiction has the Gardai rolling on the floor with laughter. Traffickers would never travel with their clients and risk being exposed by them. Nor would they risk being found in possession of other people’s papers. The immigration authorities will tell you anyhow that when undocumented asylum seekers are subjected to ‘language analysis’ when the veracity of their claims are being investigated they invariably turn out to hail from safe countries of origin. The simple prosaic fact is that document destruction is a deliberate strategy used by asylum-abusers to disguise a safe country of origin, frustrate the asylum-adjudication process, and make deportation extremely difficult.
Finally, RTE, being RTE, couldn’t resist including a sermon on the dreaded ‘far-right’ and how allegedly unprecedented was this threat from a faction that can’t seem to get even a single lowly county councillor elected. No mention whatsoever of that violent riot just a few years ago orcestrated by the far left in which a car with a government minister inside was upended.
Thanks for this comment/contribution
Do you have any insights into Carol Nolan’s recent questions, by the way ?
I believe that her opinion about legislation that necessitates a draw on the public finances is probably incorrect. However, given we ratified the two amending EU treaties by referendum subject to an opt-out on EU third-country immigration protocols, it is logical that a Pact that infringes that opt-out requires a referendum to make it constitutional for Ireland to implement.
Refusing to join this flawed EU Immigration Pact will not constrain us in any way whatsoever from taking effective action on our own – or with other countries, to combat abuse of the Asylum and International Protection system. However, by joining this pact we will be signing up to unquantifiable commitments to take even more asylum-seekers from other EU countries like Greece and Italy, or to accept huge financial penalties in lieu.
It is significant that Denmark, which like Ireland has an opt-out from the existing EU protocols, will not be joining this Pact, and instead is using its opt-out status to take vigorous independent action to deal with the the same wholesale abuse of the asylum and international protection systems as we in Ireland are experiencing.
None of the suite of initiatives recently announced by Minister McEntee to combat asylum abuse in the context of Ireland signing up to the Pact actually necessitates us joining up. They can be implemented right here and now without further ado. In fact, all of them could legally have been implemented in early 2022 when the number of asylum seekers arriving here exploded in the immediate aftermath of Minister O’Gorman’s rash multilingual promise of own-door accommodation for anyone who uttered the magic words “I’m here to claim asylum”.
It is hard to see McEntee’s incorrect implication that we will only be able to take effective action against asylum abuse if and when we enter the Pact as anything other than a delaying tactic to postpone having to take the hard decisions until the Pact becomes effective in 2026 (such as providing the very substantial resources needed to run an efficient asylum-adjudication system, and properly police our air, sea, and land borders, and to implement the procedural reforms that will be required to stop the current nonsense)
In the meantime, as the latest published statistics show, asylum seekers are now arriving here at the annual rate of 20,000-plus (not the 13,000 to 16,000 posited by the government) with no prospect that the planned (and already inadequate) government accommodation for asylum seekers will be delivered before at least 2026.
The answer is as always the same. The asylum-adjudication system needs to be properly resourced to enable it to deliver final decisions at a rate equal to new arrivals coming into the system. As present it delivers final decisions at a quarter of that rate. The appeals system needs to be streamlined and the ‘gatekeeper’ procedure for judicial review needs to be radically tightened-up. All new arrivals must be required to apply for asylum at the point of arrival – not the IPO. The list of safe countries and whose applicants are processed by a streamlined procedure, must be added to by countries like Nigeria where internal migration to safety is perfectly practical. Procedural changes need to be implemented at boarding gates to stop the strategy of document destruction, and failure without good excuse to provide documentation deemed to be a failure to co-operate with the asylum-process and grounds for summary disqualification from seeking asylum. Finally, administrative changes need to be made (withdrawal of PPS numbers, benefits and accommodation) to make it impossible for failed asylum seekers to remain here.
All of these steps are perfectly legal and within our national competence without entering this Pact.
This comment should be top of the thread here – not enough people seem to be understanding the things you’ve accurately summarised.
Too much ‘musha, musha, woe is me’ and not enough clarity and decisiveness.
There are things people can do. The very least is spreading the word online and off, and contacting meps, cllrs senators tds etc.
Little steps like these have almost totally derailed the hate speech legislation (still a bit of pushback, but it looks pretty f’kd…).
Plus the actions of campaign groups in this regard.
[Verona Murphy-edit, shd be Carol Nolan?]was back on the news with this today –On the bulletins on several national stations
-there’s a Constitutional clause apparently prohibiting the govt from entering agreements with outside bodies that incur financial costs on the taxpayer (excluding for services, admin., etc.)
Which the pact obviously does.
People could thank her by email, too. (and stop looking for absolute concord or ‘purity’ from politicians on this issue, there is always going to be shades of opinion even within one end of the migration debate)
Raymond Crotty??
That is incorrect. There is no financial penalty for Ireland, not to sign in to this new asylum pact. Ireland has the right and the freedom not to sign in. Varadkar’s mantra before he went belly up, was that we had a legal obligation towards all who turn up here, which is a lie. We have no such legal obligation.
If we ratify tge treaty we then incur 20k penalty for every asylum seeker we do not accept
There is no such thing as a free lunch, when the critical mass of Irish citizens rise, which they will, the bill will need to be paid by every greedy Irish parasite selling their country and its future to the highest bidder, massive social unrest is coming and these people will be in the firing line
thanks Catherine Murphy for giving voice to your local community their fears and needs in their struggles in everyday Irish life beening flooded with people whole will take their houses jobs schools churches hospital spaces preschool places ……………,cork turn coat shouting for Palestinian state and Irish system falling apart………….
If she thinks it takes away our soveringity, why does she not challenge it in the courts. She must know how! I know that The Lisbon treaty took away our soveringity, as we were so well warned, but as a pensioner there is nothing I can do about it!
Will never happen, the people dont matter. The jwo and the lining in their pockets matter. The people are an inconvenience to them.
We don’t want the integration of the sub Sahara. Get them out. This is a replacement plan to get the Irish out and many have fled, and replacements are in. We can see it already. A savage housing crisis for the Irish, but the bogus are as smug as bugs in their new housing. The happy bogus, the distraught Irish. My idea of integration is a kick up their dung holes for these fakes out of my country and the Irish allowed a roof over their heads. The profits the fakes are making on the dole will be massive wealth on return to their own country. Allow the Irish back who have fled the country. That for me is integration. A referendum on the migration pact is needed. Barry Ward seems to think immigration is a private matter for him and his team, with no other public rep representing our view allowed within earshot. Get lost.